Minimalist wrote:Then why would he have told his followers that they were made from little piles of dirt. Would have saved us all a lot of trouble is Genesis read like a microbiology textbook.
(Of course, then it probably wouldn't have been the money-maker that it was down through the years.)
minimalist -
many, many creation myths worldwide ascribe to exactly that. humans were made out of little piles of dirt - although the translations usually use the word "clay".
and - not to change subjects here - there's a fairly famous quote about jews being "clay pots in an iron pot world" (can't remember author - except that they were jewish - or provenance).
many, many creation myths worldwide ascribe to exactly that. humans were made out of little piles of dirt - although the translations usually use the word "clay".
Probably because of observation of the way bodies decompose.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
the sumerian myths dont say mud
they say mankind was made out of a gods blood and clay
the word for clay they use is generic not specific and so is being used in a manner that would indicate "widely available resource"
when you consider that the gods described looked fully human and the local widely available resource at that time were the semitic ubaidians its fairly easy to see exactly why they put it like that
and why people copying their creation myth from them much much later got it wrong and just said
Then the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground
see by the time they came about the canals had all fallen into misuse and there wasnt any decent clay to be had
Minimalist wrote:Then why would he have told his followers that they were made from little piles of dirt. Would have saved us all a lot of trouble is Genesis read like a microbiology textbook.
(Of course, then it probably wouldn't have been the money-maker that it was down through the years.)
I have no idea....I'm not Christian. I do think the bible holds truths and I think maybe the "made from clay" could perhaps be referenced to something else...it also states man was made in "our" image...meaning others besides. There are a lot of translation problems in the bible, not to mention it has been added to and parts left out and changed. I find it interesting that the Koran, the Muslim bible....says that he that is putting the laws down to them, is the same God as that of the Christians and the Jews, and that since the Bible of the Christians had become corrupt, it is needed to be given to man once again....that Jesus was real and a profit, that he was born of a virgin, but that he was not the son of god and that he did not die on the cross....that a look alike did, that God had taken Jesus up to heaven.
Aaaaaanyway......
You laugh because I'm different. I laugh because you're all the same!
Well ,if humans were made of clay,god messed up ,he should have used marble and taken some beginner course from Michelangelo or Rodin ,can I sue him for that ,he didn't do a good enough job on me .Anybody knows a good lawyer ?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
can I sue him for that ,he didn't do a good enough job on me
you can't actually sue god because he has no solid presence on earth
so it would be like trying to sue a non entity with no corporate identity
you can however sue anyone claiming to be his representative
so take it up with the pope or the chief rabbi depending on which god you think has the most money to lose
of course the pope could get out of the claim at any time by admitting he doesnt actually represent god
hey i just had a thought
you could sue Arch
Allright Arch ,I finally discovered who you really are :quoting you -
thus you are saying that the process can, without possessing any of those things nor has the ability to even conceive of those things, 'create' something out of nothing.
also, it has no ability to know when it got something wrong thus it has no ability to make 'corrections' so there can be no transitional species because it would just be impossible for the process to know when it got something right so it could move on to the next species. -
ReneDescartes wrote:Allright Arch ,I finally discovered who you really are :quoting you -
thus you are saying that the process can, without possessing any of those things nor has the ability to even conceive of those things, 'create' something out of nothing.
also, it has no ability to know when it got something wrong thus it has no ability to make 'corrections' so there can be no transitional species because it would just be impossible for the process to know when it got something right so it could move on to the next species. -
