The Exodus Decoded

Frank Harrist · Post by **Frank Harrist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:45 am

I didn't even notice that that was Dever.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:03 pm

Early on he had little snippets of conversations with Davies, Whitelam, Hoffmeier, Redford, and Dever. However, as he had announced that no one agreed with him he quickly moved on.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:55 pm

The guy didn't go into a lot of detail. He left out a lot and took a lot of things for granted. Basically the show was a farce

when he came up with the greek theory, that was it for me.

Early on he had little snippets of conversations with Davies, Whitelam, Hoffmeier, Redford, and Dever.

don't forget pellegrino. my thought was thatthe experts were not given enough time to say anything (or their comments were edited down to nothing) and that they were only going to be able to say what jacobovich wanted them to say. their input was not valid nor really wanted.

one part that i need clarification on is the ash grains? i wasn't sure how much they found. i heard 40 grains but that seems miniscule and redundant as thera was so expansive, almost every country would have ash found intheir soil from that time. nor did i hear the importance of their discovery.

nor could i follow the logic of only the one child getting the low level bed? no one else slept in a bed? i am still waiting coment on carbon dioxide's ability to be so selective and consistant in its selectiveness.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:56 pm

I deliberately left out Pellegrino because he got a lot more air time than the others.

Which figures really because he is the closest to agreeing.

The one who surprised me was Hoffmeier. He did not seem at all enthused over the theory.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:57 pm

also, how does the mass grave prove the 10th plague? families would not consent tosuch a burial. mass graves are only used when there is an over-abundanceof bodies and the death of each first born wuldn't produce enough to warrant such a burial.

that is my thinking, i am sure families would bury their own dead intheir own graves.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:08 pm

Even more....the existence of a cemetary for males at Avaris proves what?

Duh? Ahmose's troops beseiged the city for years. Does Simcha think this happened without casualties?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:32 pm

Which figures really because he is the closest to agreeing.

if you read 'return to sodom and gomorrah' & 'unearting atlantis' pellegrino discusses this theory but he also agrees with dendrochronology and places the eruption at 1625 b.c. approx. (i am doing this from memory) so pellegrino only goes so far with this idea.

The one who surprised me was Hoffmeier. He did not seem at all enthused over the theory.

hoffmeier is more logical than that, he probably saw the holes in jacobovich's thinking and only participated to keep things in perspective. he has his own book out called, 'israel in sinai' which most likely disagrees with jacobovich and has more data to back him up.

Even more....the existence of a cemetary for males at Avaris proves what?

Duh? Ahmose's troops beseiged the city for years. Does Simcha think this happened without casualties?

i think this is the whole point. the process of coming to his conclusions leaves much to question and demonstrates poor scholarship as he assumes much without discussion or illustrating how he came to that point. the greek thoery proves this as he just throws it out there in mid conversation without anything to indicate that it could have happened. then he shows a gold piece, which could have been fashioned at any time, which did not look like the ark as described in the Bible, then claims it is a sculpture of it. he didn't even use scripture to support his contention.

i will watch it again this weekend at home so i am not as distracted as i was at school.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:05 pm

so pellegrino only goes so far with this idea.

He did admit, right off the bat, that no one agreed with him completely. Presumably that included Pellegrino.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:15 pm

another thing that bothered me was that his idea of a tsunami being responsible for the drowning of the egyptians. that doesn't even jive with the biblical record as the wall of water was ever present as the israelites passed through on dry land. a tsunami woudld not create such a wall.

humphreys has a good explanation that fits better with the wall than this guy has. which reminds me, jacobovich said that no on else has come up with a logical explanation for the plagues till his documentery. he must not have read humphreys, as he published his book a good 2 years before jacobovich put the final cut together.

he also mentions a granite monument that tells the story from the egyptrian side. i didn't catch the name of this nor can i verify such a monument exists. any thoughts on that?

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:30 pm

I think he's talking about the feeding trough...or whatever the hell it was.
The El Arish inscription?

My understanding is that it is an artifact from the Ptolemaic dynasty...IOW from at least 1200 years later.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:09 pm

i have been waiting for others to join in here as my notes are at home and i can't respond till i return from work.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:35 pm

I don't know who else watched it except the dear, departed, marduk.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:34 pm

i thought frank, beagle and leona had done so also/

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:45 pm

Beagle did.

Post by **MichelleH** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:34 am

Here is an interesting dissertation dating the Exodus to 1315-1317.

Dating the Exodus: Another View From KMT, Summer 1994

http://ggreenberg.tripod.com/ancientne/dating.html