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Post by marduk »

he thinks the Trojan horse was an alien armoured personnel carrier you know
:lol:
As told in my new book, I chose to begin a tour of ancient civilization sites in Turkey with a visit to Troy because I presented to my group the following line of logic: If Homer was right that there was a Troy, a king Menelaus and a King Priam and the hero Achilles etc. etc., and a Trojan War – why not accept that he was also right in telling how the gods instigated that war and took part in it? In other words, if Troy and its War were fact not myth, why not deem the references in the Iliad to the existence in antiquity of omnipotent gods also as fact not myth?

It was only thus, I explained, that all the texts and depictions from antiquity showing men and gods can be explained and understood. The visit to Troy and its tale was affirmation of the actual presence of those whom the Sumerians called Anunnaki: “Those who from Heaven to Earth came.”
© Z. Sitchin Reprinted with permission
Those who from Heaven to Earth came
its such a pity that in the ancient world Heaven was believed to be on a mountain top really, especially to the sumerians and the greeks
:lol:
that and the fact that the sumerians called them the Anuna
and the gods he constantly references are actually the IGIGI
:lol:
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This is not about Sitchin, marduk. It's about you.

This is the third time I have double checked one of your assertions and the third time that you were....let's be polite....imprecise.

We Yanks have a saying in baseball: 3 strikes and you're out.
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it was spot on Min i dont see how you dont get this
It wasn't hancocks assertion about the quarry marks
it was sitchins
unless you got some evidence that says otherwise you'll just have to accept it for the truth that it is
he said that in order to bring the Pyramids back in time to the last passing of Nibiru around 5200bce
so if you accept his assertion then thats the date you are saying you think the great pyramid dates from, otherwise you are cherry picking your evidence and I thought you claimed only Arch did that
as for other strikes
i seriously dont remember them (no shit)
what was i wrong about before ?
you got to walk back to the dugout some time ago though buddy
:lol:
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Sitchen, Hancock, Niburu - all in one post. :shock:

What's this place coming to?
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Long live...the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, Khufu, given life...He found the House of Isis, Mistress of the Pyramid, by the side of the hollow of Hwran [the Sphinx]...and he built his pyramid beside the temple of this goddess and he built a pyramid for the King's daughter Henutsen beside this temple. The place of Hwran Horemkhet is on the south side of the House of Isis, Mistress of the Pyramid.... He restored the statue, all covered in painting, of the Guardian of the Atmosphere, who guides the winds with his gaze. He replaced the back part of the nemes head-dress which was missing with gilded stone.... The figure of this god, cut in stone, is solid and will last to eternity, keeping its face always to the east.
I haven't been able to find a complete translation of the Inventory Stele. It's too interesting to not be posted on this thread. Thanks to LadyV for bringing up the subject.

This partial translation is probably the part that interests us most. Colin Reader has a little to say about it, and I'll find that.
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http://www.hallofmaat.com/modules.php?n ... cle&sid=93

There is nothing new in the idea that the Sphinx was built at a time before the reign of Khafre. In his 1893 book The Mummy, Wallis Budge refers to an inscription found by Mariette which states that the Sphinx existed at the time of Khufu. This inscription is carried on the so-called Inventory Stela - a late (26th Dynasty, 664-525 BC) artefact which tells how Khufu found the Sphinx and a nearby Temple of Isis in a ruinous state which he set about restoring. The stela was discovered in a small temple known as 'Isis, Mistress of the Pyramid', built onto the east side of one of the Khufu satellite pyramids.

The execution of the Inventory Stela is poor and the names used for the various deities mentioned in the text are clearly those employed during the Late Period. This has led many to argue that the Inventory Stela is a fake - a fraudulent attempt on the part of the Late Period Egyptians to re-discover a past which was, even then, of great antiquity.

Although the Inventory Stela may be a 'pious fake', the possibility should not be discounted that it is a copy of an earlier artefact. There are precedents for this - for example, a black granite stela of Shabaka (c 712 to 698 BC) states that the pharaoh found an original document 'being eaten by worms'. Shabaka ordered the writing 'to be made anew', and so the wooden or papyrus original was recarved in stone. [12] Furthermore, the Inventory Stela refers to the tail of the Sphinx's nemes head-dress being struck by a 'thunderbolt'. As both Hassan and Mark Lehner have confirmed, there is indeed damage at this location, consistent with a strong blow, together with the apparent remains of ancient repair work. [1
Currently called a fake (it would have to be called that), Reader suggests that it is copied from an earlier date.
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I'm copying the link to James Henry Breasted's work for anyone interested from the FOTG thread.

After much digging I gave up looking for "translation of Inventory Stele" and checked Hancock's footnotes.

I'm sure the Club would have told us that he cited Sitchin or someone else that they have marginalized but in fact he cited James Henry Breasted's 1905 work on the records of ancient egypt. Looking for that, instead of the stele, I found this.

http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books ... eanc00.pdf



Quote:
eLive the Horus: Mezer (Md[r]), King of Upper and Lower Egypt:
Khufu, who is given life. He found the house of Isis, Mistress of the
Pyramid! beside the house of the Sphinx of g[Harmakhis] on the northwest
of the house of Osiris,h Lord of Rosta (RJ -st' w). He built his
pyramid beside the temple of this goddess, and he built a pyramid for
the king's-daughteri Henutsen (Hnwt-sn) beside this temp1e.j



Once you load the .pdf file (and it is enormous, I hope you have broadband) scroll down to BREASTED's page #83 (by that, I mean ignore the .pdf page numbers and look at the text on the page).

Breasted almost at the start dismisses the stele but later on one gets the impression of a certain British/French pissing contest because it was Mariette who found it. Anyway. Breasted intersperses commentary in with the translation but I think he is a solid enough source for even the CLUB to admire.
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Good idea. Have you had a chance to read everything through the 4th dynasty yet? A lot to digest.
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No, I didn't. I was mainly interested in finding the translation of the stele.

HOWEVER, while poking around I did spot a reference to certain inscriptions posted by nobles in the mastabas of their dead parents.

Once again, I was struck by the disparity between laudatory inscriptions in the tombs of workers or lesser nobles and the total lack of decoration in the Great Pyramid.

Seems incongruous for a supposedly megalomaniac pharoah, doesn't it?
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Yep- walls as bare and smooth as a babies' butt. There is an awful lot about the structures at Giza that don't fit with the rest of Egypt.

And did you already know about those tunnels and tombs deep underground at Giza?
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I had seen something about them recently. I didn't know that they were first found back in Breasted's time.
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I saw some program on TV where it was mentioned briefly by ZH but I hadn't been aware of any more until recently.

Well, I'm gonna leave to you west coast people to carry on. Later.
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Figured I'd bump this back up in case Beagle returns.
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Whaddya mean, if I return? I'm still around, but I'm just talkin' archaeology somewhere else 'till church lets out.

You know - the way things have been around here - I'm just expanding options to avoid aggravation overload. And it works.

Gotta get to bed now, I'm heading out camping tomorrow. The summer heat has broken and the mountains call. Later.
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There are other threads, you know.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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