Noah's Flood...

[Guest]

You know . . . the common "motiff" for creation myths is Sky "doin' da nasty" with Earth. The verb in the P Creation Myth is better translated as "cut" as in separate. Elohim, literally, separates the sky from the Earth:

This background makes it worthwhile considering the thesis that the Hebrew word for creation by God [Cannot render Hebrew Font: Aleph-Resh-Bet--Ed.], has the original basic meaning of "divide" or "separate," E. Dantinne, "Creation et Séparation," Le Muséon, 74 (1961). He begins with the passages Josh 17:15, 18; Ezek 23:47 . . . where the verb means "cut off" or "cut in pieces," (Westermann).

Thus, perhaps the ancient Earth was "use" to the "friction" and heat.

Maybe she used AstroGlide?

--J.D.

Reference:

Westermann C. Genesis: An Introduction. Scullion JJ, trans. Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 1992.

[ed]

lotta, lotta heat. Enough to vaporize oceans.

Gotta explain where it went if one does not wish to look silly.

If it occured deep down and was vented, surely the SO2 and ash would have resulted in a nuclear winter. That would last for what, a thousand years maybe? And there would be a record. Thru dendrochronology if nothing else. Mass extinctions with a strata, worldwide, with examples of every thing that ever lived. Not just stupid mollesks.

It's not just the mindnumbing idiocy of a flood, it is the physics of the aftermath. You don't just shift the entire mantle of the earth and expect it to settle down in a few hundred years. There would have been weather like you wouldn't beleive, worldwide.

And during this animals repopulated and travelled to whereever?

We gotta keep these people away from our kids. Really. Can you imagine competing with China and India with a workforce that has zero critical thinking abilities?

[Guest]

well i am waiting for genesis' reply to that. i hope he brings in some links and source material to make himself credible as it would be an interesting read if he did.

[Guest]

. . . and even if it "evaporated":

Do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us 'revenge is a dish best served cold?' It is very cold . . . in space!

it would recondense . . . recondensce . . . become rain . . . again. Leave aside the problem that they cannot provide a source for this water.

--J.D.

[Guest]

"You don't just shift the mantle of the entire earth....," wow Ed, are you always prone to exaggerate to such a profoundly ludicrous degree?

Boy oh boy, Ed, you are a screamer.

[Guest]

Doctor X, magma is about 70% water by weight, hello?

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"You don't just shift the mantle of the entire earth....," wow Ed, are you always prone to exaggerate to such a profoundly ludicrous degree?

Boy oh boy, Ed, you are a screamer.

umm, what you suggested implies that. Loony, I know.

[ed]

Doctor X, magma is about 70% water by weight, hello?

Reference?

[Guest]

Doctor X, magma is about 70% water by weight, hello?

Still having problems reading?

Let us pretend it is 100% WATER [!--Ed.]

Let's review the catechism. . . .

From the Original Calculations, the Volume of the Earth is a mere:

10,841,229,850 meters cub'd.

We ["We?"--Ed.] also determined the Volume of the Flood:

1,436,764,500,000,000,000 meters cub'd.

Do I need to continue? Even if some of the water came from "below"--in those pesky cisterns no one can find that archaeologist imagined, a COMPLETELY hollow Earth would still give us:

1,425,923,300,000 meters cub'd of water that would have to fail as rain.


Can I make it any clearer than that?!

As far as I know, the world is not hollow!! So any "fountain of the deep" or "cistern" he wishes to imagine will only increase the volume that must have fallen.

Yet if the Earth was hollow the pressure of this water would have crushed it.

Looks around

No evidence of that.

Quod erat demonstrandum ad nauseum. . . .

--J.D.

[stan]

Mr. Veracity,

How did a flood of only 6 weeks pile up thousands of feet of
fossils all over the world? Do you think that many creatures lived in the ocean at that time?
If all the biomass in the ocean were killed right now, how deep would the pile be?

Seems silly to me.

Stan

[Guest]

Ed, please tell us all how my description of oceanic plates diving 10 or 20 miles into the mantle (the mantle which composes about half of the earth's volume) could be even loosely construed that I was saying that the entire mantle of the earth shifted.

[Guest]

Ed, please tell us all how my description of oceanic plates diving 10 or 20 miles into the mantle (the mantle which composes about half of the earth's volume) could be even loosely construed that I was saying that the entire mantle of the earth shifted.

Please tell us how the Earth could contain a volume orders of magnitude greater than its volume.

--J.D.

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And besides, since the plates were moving perhaps a hundred feet/minute, they were plunging down deeper under the continental plates, to affect the magnetic field of the earth, the magnetic reversals which are noted in lava rocks, and in sedimentary rocks.

sounds like a worldwide event to me.

How much energy does this generate? How long to stop the plate that are going at 100/ft/min? How much heat would this produce over how long a time? What are the climactic implications for this?

[Guest]

Let us play . . . the Which is Bigger Game!!!!!


10,841,229,850 meters cub'd or 1,436,764,500,000,000,000 meters cub'd

Tick tock . . . tick tock. . . .

--J.D.

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And besides, since the plates were moving perhaps a hundred feet/minute, they were plunging down deeper under the continental plates, to affect the magnetic field of the earth, the magnetic reversals which are noted in lava rocks, and in sedimentary rocks.

sounds like a worldwide event to me.

How much energy does this generate? How long to stop the plate that are going at 100/ft/min? How much heat would this produce over how long a time? What are the climactic implications for this?

There is more ....

What are the energy implications of the flood water condensing to drops and then hitting the ground? What would happen to the worldwide ambient temperature?