this style of digging i disagree with as it leaves too much information buried and lends to mistakes being made in conclusions and publications. it also leaves too many questions unanswered.
Well, as Frank explained portions of the site will be left for future generations with hopefully better techniques and technology to work with and gain more information than we can today. This is an ever-improving field of research. We have already lost untold information by early archaeologists that just trenched into sites looking for the artifacts and ignoring the other information that can be gained by studying the stratigraphy.
The other point is that there usually just not enough funding to hit every square inch of the site all the way down to bedrock. Even places like Akrotiri on Santorini (Thera) have budget constraints.
Even worse, the funds to preserve what has been dug up are in notoriously short supply. Look at what is happening to Pompeii. Then there is the other problem, discussed on this board, of how to store and/or display all the artifacts dug up.
It's a field that does not generate enough money to sustain itself.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Minimalist wrote:Even worse, the funds to preserve what has been dug up are in notoriously short supply. Look at what is happening to Pompeii. Then there is the other problem, discussed on this board, of how to store and/or display all the artifacts dug up.
It's a field that does not generate enough money to sustain itself.
In fact preservation of sites threatened by construction is costly in lost time while the site is examined (usually under the gun to recover as much as possible as fast as possible). I wonder how many sites have been ploughed under while a construction company looked the other way?
Well, as Frank explained portions of the site will be left for future generations with hopefully better techniques and technology to work with and gain more information than we can today. This is an ever-improving field of research.
Every day you hear of sites which were dug in the early days being re-visited. We find things with todays technologies that they missed back then and in the future they'll find stuff we missed. It's why we only dig parts of the sites. To presevre the rest for the future archaeologits to find
now that Frank and OAS have covered the kindergarten level of archaeology, let's move on to the more advance levels of the topic, please.
again, my opinion is that to save information for the future is not doing the field of archaeology any good as too much information is lost and allows for those detractors to have an opening in spewing their divisive theories without providing substantiation {this does not mean me or most biblical scholars-- it does include those who are like ron wyatt}
archaeologist wrote:
now that Frank and OAS have covered the kindergarten level of archaeology, let's move on to the more advance levels of the topic, please.
again, my opinion is that to save information for the future is not doing the field of archaeology any good as too much information is lost and allows for those detractors to have an opening in spewing their divisive theories without providing substantiation {this does not mean me or most biblical scholars-- it does include those who are like ron wyatt}
Perhaps then you can give us all some specific examples of how you have approached this issue, based on your vast personal field experience.
this does not mean me or most biblical scholars-- it does include those who are like ron wyatt
An interesting distinction since Wyatt is about as reputable as most "biblical scholars." The main difference is that he wasn't afraid to get off his ass and go outside to make a fool of himself.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Archie, old bean, you are the one who continues to insist on a literal reading of fairy tales.
No matter how ridiculous you look doing it, you are consistent.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Arch, when you are able to finance and manage a dig site then you can do it your way. Sure it isn't the ideal situation the way digs are done, but as has been pointed out, there are many constraints placed on field archaeologists. Financial, logistical, temporal, and many other things have to be considered. Also we must not make the same mistakes which were made in the past. Just as we have learned from past mistakes we need to be sure we keep our own to a minimum. It is better to be cautious than to just bull through and destroy evidence. As I'm sure you know, archaeology is a destructive process. Once a site is dug you can't go back and re-dig it, so it has to be slow and meticulous. Do not call my experience kindergarten level. I'm sure I have more field experience than you. You have made that abundantly clear. It isn't necessary to insult someone to disagree with them. Try being civil and intelligent. That usually works best.
The only topics which are ever rude, insulting or contencious are the ones in which you, arch, and/or GV are involved. It is a problem which will be remedied one way or another.
It isn't necessary to insult someone to disagree with them
who said it was an insult? it may have been a descriptive commentaryon the level of knowledge that was given in the post which basically was archaeology 101.
those of us who have moved on from that class find it insulting to have it repeated by people who say they have experience and think no one else knows anything.
know your audience.
Try being civil and intelligent
you have let beagle and minimalist get away with far more than you accuse me of so don't talk to me. talk to yourself about your inability to control all members on this board.
i have caught beagle mis-representing and outright lying about me and my posts yet you remain silent so i certainly have no respect for you or your moderating skills.
The only topics which are ever rude, insulting or contencious are the ones in which you, arch, and/or GV are involved
well duh!!! that is because you let your friends take freebies while you wait till i get to the point where i have to respond. then you make it all my fault, sorry but it won't wash. the blame falls squarely on your shoulders because you have the power to keep your buddies in line and you refuse to do it.
you have let beagle and minimalist get away with far more than you accuse
I told you months ago that I was not going to sit by while you spilled you bible fables off as a substitute for science. I maintain that I have been consistent in maintaining that promise.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
I told you months ago that I was not going to sit by while you spilled you bible fables off as a substitute for science
you forget one thing: who are you that that is your responsibility? you can't even provide proof for your opinion or proper rebuttal. all you can do is say; 'there were no ***israelites, there were no *** israelites. real scientific and real archaeology right there. such a fine example you are...i laugh at you and others as you pretend to follow the rules here and all you do is demonstrate that you have nothing upon which to build and yu have nothing to offer.
you also forget that you and every other secular person do not own the fields of archaeology and science so you have no say in what is included in those fields.
