Catal Huyuk City

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:50 am

Well there you have it, "effective refutation" by trivial pursuit, ala Marduk, doesn't fly, but somewhat entertaining nevertheless.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:14 am

don't give me that
i could kick your ass at trivial pursuit anyday of the week
especially if they were ancient history questions

obviously on the fundie bible question pack you'd win
but luckily they don't make that version
think about that for a minute Jim
most popular boardgame in recent history
no bible question pack
$$$$$$$ cha ching

how about monopoly set based on the bible
go directly to sheol
do not pass the holy mountain
do not collect half a dinari
$$$$$$$ cha ching

you could call it monotheismopoly

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:24 am

Marduk, once again you've achieved avoidance of answering questions with your zany antics, way to go, it's a new scholarly approach, daffy trivia ("it's a town, not a city") to avoid the hard questions, so your "great sense of humor" overshadows your lack of answers, somewhat clever.

How 'bout the new board game Darwinite Delight, you pick your "common ancestor of the humans and the monkeys," you can choose from tree shrew, mole, beaver, lemming, or gerbel, and from there, you build your own family tree back to the ultimate common ancestor of us all, goo.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:29 am

How 'bout the new board game Darwinite Delight, you pick your "common ancestor of the humans and the monkeys," you can choose from tree shrew, mole, beaver, lemming, or gerbel, and from there, you build your own family tree back to the ultimate common ancestor of us all, goo

sounds like a good idea
call parker brothers right away
of course you'd need to introduce a system of whittling down the evolutionary dead ends like homosexuals, religious fundies and talking serpents.....
perhaps you could have a deck of cards called "god is a bouncing monkey man" which does that. like normal decks of crads have jokers don't they

as for questions you've asked in this thread
I wasn't aware of any credible ones that I should be answering
perhaps you can provide a list ?

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:34 am

The article had perhaps 2000 people living in a town without intrances or exits except from the top down ladders. Some grain was processed, but mainly wild. Defence, they think was not the sealed off reason for the top entrance. No attacks were found. Bodies were buried under the floors of the living quarters. Extensive wall graphics, mainly of bulls, and other wild animals, were on almost the quarters. Women, were deified, with many statues found. This was true with most ancient sites which identified women with the fertility of the crops and luck in hunting. The catholics in the early AC shifted to males. Totally amazing that, when others were living in hide tents accross the world, an actual town 9000 years ago existed. Speculation is that older towns exist under the Black Sea if the assholes would look for them correctly. Hear that Ballard?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:37 am

http://www.archaeological.org/forums/fo ... forumid=26

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:15 am

Yes gunny, the structures now-submerged on the shallow seafloor of the Black Sea bear much more investigation, little doubt that they were as sophisticated as Catal Huyuk, so how could these, and the other submerged ancient city-states, off Spain, Malta, Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, India, and Pacific islands, be from the end of the Ice Age?

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:50 am

Black Sea was a fresh water lake untill the biblical deluge. Perfect home sites. Water, fish, trading with Danube peoples. Ballard should look at the old Danube channel area. We think all the other areas evolved when the Black Sea ran them out. "Biblical?"

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:57 am

Gunny, where do you get off saying that the limited sea level rise of a few hundred feet at the end of the Ice Age was the global encompassing Deluge described in Genesis?

And you dodged the other question, when do you think the sea level rose to engulf the city-states in the Black Sea, and off Malta, Spain, Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, India, Japan, and islands of the Pacific?

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:29 pm

Sea level had risen about 100 meters at the end of the ice age 10K plus or minus. The Bosporus's(sp) connecting Turkey with Europe was a narrow area that was inodated and the narrow limestone barrier broke through. Mediterranean sea water rushed through the opening. The Black Sea residents had time to leave their areas and move to the Danube or Mesopotamian areas Ur Babylon Turkey. Thus the flood story. A neat book documents this with the various sea vs fresh water clams. What else?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:43 pm

According to what you've said, gunny, sea level rose a few hundred feet at around 8000 B.C., so the submerged megalithic ruins of citadels, streets, walls, temples, and statues, off Spain, Malta, Egypt, Greece, Lebanon, India, and Japan, were built before circa 8000 B.C., but megalithic building supposedly didn't begin 'til circa 2500 B.C., so how do you explain your gap of 5,500 years?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:45 pm

By the way, gunny, did you mean 10k B.C. or 10k B.P., trying to get a little wiggle room? Ha ha ha.

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:10 pm

Ha Ha Ha ----Yes BC ---With the huge weight of the ice age melting---the land rose in those areas with the weight removed, and the displaced sea water rose in southern climes. Unless you are hunting Atlantis, no submerged cities are 10K. 9K 8K 7K

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:14 pm

When did the sea level rise in the Med, gunny, and when did the Black Sea get flooded, were they at about the same time, or not? (You can't wiggle off that easy.)

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:34 pm

Damn Minimalist, where are you when I need you. The book(damned if I can remenber the name of it. I read a book, but never save one) was written by two geologists from an elite ivy leage grant to explore the Black Sea. Their drillings of the bottom amazed them because there was a sudden change in fresh water clams to salt water clams. They made their way around the Black Sea drilling, and found the progression of sea water into the fresh water lake. Dates were given with carbon 14 and other means. It is in the book-----10---111----12K, read the book!