Giza

[oldarchystudent]

CRAP!!!!

I forgot it was on.

It's Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada, so I've been otherwise occupied (my wife cooks an incredible turkey!)

So how was it?

Jim

[Beagle]

Hey Oas,

Personally I liked the first hour. It dealt with building pyramids and pre-dynastic Egypt. There were great views of the step pyramid of Djoser.

I just didn't care for the second hour, but I've never been a fan of Ramses et al. They also blew right over the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx.

It'll be on again.

[Minimalist]

They also blew right over the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx.

Because they don't know how or when they were built?

[Beagle]

Because they don't know how or when they were built?

I don't know Min. but they sure didn't touch it.

[Minimalist]

Even Lehner, who I consider one of the most doctrinaire members of The Club, said in a recent special that "no one knew" how the GP was built.

[marduk]

Lehner was a member of the A.R.E.
as such he is not a member of your imagined club
hes a member of a group who thinks that Atlantis is in the Bahamas
in other words a group that makes money from peoples ignorance
a group who for instance sponsor the belief in a global conspiracy by REAL archaeologists to keep the truth from the public because they make money from it
one of these days Min I'm sure you'll figure out who's lying to you
til then your constant griping about imagined conspiracies is truly amusing
and your lack of comprehension truly stunning

[DougWeller]

Even Lehner, who I consider one of the most doctrinaire members of The Club, said in a recent special that "no one knew" how the GP was built.

There's no way anyone could know exactly how it was built.

Is that a surprise? We aren't even sure how Roman roads were built.

[Beagle]

Lehner was a member of the A.R.E.

Yeah, as I told you once in private mail Min, I have often wondered why so many Egyptologists and so-called Egyptologists are involved with Cayce or the Rosicrucians.

It seems that one often goes with another. Pseudo what?

[marduk]

Is that a surprise? We aren't even sure how Roman roads were built.

hands up who knows how modern roads are built ?

I have often wondered why so many Egyptologists and so-called Egyptologists are involved with Cayce.

ah finally understanding

funnily enough Hancock quotes Cayce in support of his crustal displacement theory in fingerpaints
though for some reason in the index he calls him Edward Cayce
solid research I thought

[Minimalist]

Even Lehner, who I consider one of the most doctrinaire members of The Club, said in a recent special that "no one knew" how the GP was built.

There's no way anyone could know exactly how it was built.

Is that a surprise? We aren't even sure how Roman roads were built.

Um....we actually have a pretty good idea although Roman engineering tended to be very practical as they were a very practical people. They were fully capable of altering their methods to suit the conditions at hand.
This is a fairly good description.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_road

The Romans are believed to have inherited the art of road construction from the Etruscans. No doubt the art grew as it went along and also incorporated good ideas from other cultures.

After the architect looked over the site of the proposed road and determined roughly where it should go, the agrimensores went to work surveying the road bed. They used two main devices, the rod and one called the groma, which helped them obtain right angles. The gromatici, the Roman equivalent of rod men, placed rods and put down a line called the rigor. As they did not possess anything like a transit, an architect tried to achieve straightness by looking along the rods and commanding the gromatici to move them as required. Using the gromae they then laid out a grid on the plan of the road.

The libratores began their work. Using ploughs and legionaries with spades, they excavated the road bed down to bed rock or at least to the firmest ground they could find. The excavation was called the fossa, "ditch." the depth varied according to terrain.

The road was constructed by filling the ditch. The method varied according to geographic locality, materials available and terrain, but the plan, or ideal at which the architect aimed was always the same. The roadbed was layered.

Into the fossa was dumped large amounts of rubble, gravel and stone, whatever fill was available. Sometimes a layer of sand was put down, if it could be found. When it came to within a few feet of the surface it was covered with gravel and tamped down, a process called pavire, or pavimentare. The flat surface was then the pavimentum. It could be used as the road, or additional layers could be constructed. A statumen or "foundation" of flat stones set in cement might support the additional layers.

The final steps utilized concrete, which the Romans had exclusively rediscovered. They seem to have mixed the mortar and the stones in the fossa. First a several-inch layer of coarse concrete, the rudus, then a several-inch layer of fine concrete, the nucleus, went onto the pavement or statumen. Into or onto the nucleus went a course of polygonal or square paving stones, such as you see in the picture, called the summa crusta. The crusta was crowned for drainage.

It is unclear that any standard terminology was used; the words for the different elements perhaps varied from region to region. Today the concrete has worn from the spaces around the stones, giving the impression of a very bumpy road, but the original surface was no doubt much closer to being flat. These remarkable roads are resistant to rain, freezing and flooding. They needed little repair.

[Beagle]

Finally?

That's been true for a very long time. Not a secret either. ZH got into a little trouble a few years ago dealing with them.

There's a lot going on underneath Giza.

[Beagle]

I had a feeling you would jump on the Roman road comment.

[Minimalist]

Salve, Beags!

[Beagle]

Uh Oh - you've gone Roman. Greetings to you as well.

I wonder if young people are still having toga parties? Ah well, youth is wasted on the young.

[Minimalist]

Hush....or the terrorists will win.