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Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:02 pm

Or clean the lens.

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:18 pm

Looks like a hand ax, Pat. Has that familiar pear/ birdhead shape to it.

How thick is that sucker?

How deep is that particular pit the students are working on?

Did you make it out to your site?

stan · Post by **stan** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:21 pm

That's only 3 inches long, Charlie. Does that qualify as a hand axe?

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:24 pm

That's only 3 inches long, Charlie. Does that qualify as a hand axe?

How about a hand hatchet?

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:25 pm

That's only 3 inches long, Charlie

Haven't you ever the phrase...."it's not the length of the wand, its the art of the magician," Stan?

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:45 pm

Haven't you ever the phrase...."it's not the length of the wand, its the art of the magician," Stan?

Dang...and I was gonna see who had the biggest ax!

There goes any reason for bragging...

Cognito · Post by **Cognito** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:15 am

Looks like a hand ax, Pat. Has that familiar pear/ birdhead shape to it. How thick is that sucker? How deep is that particular pit the students are working on?

That tool is probably a knife ... it's too small to be a hand-axe (yes, size does matter). It is also a relatively thin, actively worked piece. It was found outside the pit on the side of the hill so it cannot be reliably dated -- although the surface lithics appear to be about 20,000 years old at that spot according to Budinger. By the way, Budinger will be using Beryllium 10 dating on the pits soon.

http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/ic ... /lec10.htm

I will "lend" the point to you to look over should you wish. It has been cataloged. The pit they were digging was only about 4-5 feet down. BLM (Bureau of Land Management) recently shut down the three main pits since they were concerned about safety and need "better shoring".

Those pits are about 30 feet deep.

stan · Post by **stan** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:03 pm

Min wrote:

Haven't you ever the phrase...."it's not the length of the wand, its the art of the magician," Stan?

Don't get defensive, Bob.

stan · Post by **stan** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:07 pm

BLM (Bureau of Land Management) recently shut down the three main pits since they were concerned about safety and need "better shoring". Those pits are about 30 feet deep.
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Well, I expect it would ruin your day if they fell in, especially on you!

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:13 pm

Don't get defensive, Bob

Cognito · Post by **Cognito** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:25 pm

BLM (Bureau of Land Management) recently shut down the three main pits since they were concerned about safety and need "better shoring". Those pits are about 30 feet deep.

Ah yes, those pits have been through seven magnitude 6.0 earthquakes without mishap (three of those in excess of 7.0). And NOW they're concerned about safety? My BS meter is in the red zone.

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:41 pm

BLM (Bureau of Land Management) recently shut down the three main pits since they were concerned about safety and need "better shoring". Those pits are about 30 feet deep.

So did they lay out the requirements for reopening the pits?

That's a damn shame to see those deeper pits closed. Alot of work went into those.

I'll contact you by e-mail concerning the piece you showed above.

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:42 pm

Don't get defensive, Bob.

... Sorry Bob, but that is too funny!! Even if it's at your expense.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:35 pm

stan wrote:Min wrote:
Haven't you ever the phrase...."it's not the length of the wand, its the art of the magician," Stan?
Don't get defensive, Bob.

Irrelevant for me, Stan.

I'm in a same-sex marriage......

After 37 years it's always the same sex!

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:05 pm

Here's 4 pieces that appear to be knives, of sorts:

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20143.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Dorsal View- 6"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20144.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Proximal/ Ventral View- 6"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20145.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Distal View- 6"- Lima-Igl

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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... s%2077.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Dorsal View- 4.5"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... s%2078.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Ventral View- 4.5"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... s%2079.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Distal View- 4.5"- Lima-Igl

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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20425.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Dorsal View- 8.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20426.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Ventral View- 8.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20427.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Distal View- 8.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20428.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Proximal View- 8.75"- Lima-Igl

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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20429.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Dorsal View- 7.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20430.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Ventral View- 7.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20431.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Distal View- 7.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20432.jpg

Possible PreClovis Cutting Tool- Proximal View- 7.25"- Lima-Igl

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