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Charlie, I think that is a great idea and I will clear the decks to do that. Cool I spent my day today going over the Calico site and giving interactive tours to Anthropology students from LA City College who were also participating in a dig at one of the pits. We traveled off the normal path, up and over one of the small hills while focusing on the identification of surface lithics and patterns. Each group found hundreds of flakes, and a significant amount of knives, scrapers, burins, and a handfull of nice handaxes, etc. It was a helluva lot of fun. At one point, the class Prof. was explaining the head lice significance to one of his students ... it took him about 10-15 minutes. :roll: I'd like to get the explanation down to a couple of paragraphs. Meanwhile David Reed et al are progressing with their analysis of pubic lice to determine if the same anomoly arises. In other words, did HSS and HE "hook up"? :wink:

Jim Bischoff also asked Fred Budinger to re-submit material for dating since his tecnique has improved over the last few years. Fred was stunned when I forwarded him Bischoff's results from your site and Texas was brought up twice today. He is incredibly interested in what you are doing and when a paper will be written. More later. :D
Morning, Cog.

Yeah, I think the evidence of this type lice being in N.A., requiring a human host, adds a another significant element to the mounting body of evidence for man's early existence in N.A. The pubic lice bit is an excellent hypothesis to test. My guess is, yes, Hss and HE probably hooked up somewhere along the line...kinda of like two different species of dogs breeding. I don't think HE vanished suddenly, but probably is incorporated into Hss genes, along with HNs. Your hypothesis certainly seems very worthy of pursuing at a much deeper level. Cool stuff, bro. 8)

Jim Bischoff, from the USGS, and Warren Sharp, from Berkeley's Geochronology Center, have apparently tweaked the U series dating, of carbonate from stone tool artifacts, to a pretty amazing level of accuracy.
Please be sure to tell Fred that Jim is not confident enough of his initial analyses to publish them. He definitely thinks we're onto something, and thus has enlisted the help of Warren Sharp, who is also known to be an expert in this pioneering technique. Warren is currently in the process of reviewing several specimens, from here in Texas, to ascertain their suitability for U series analyses. Crossing my fingers here. The more analyses, performed by independent researchers, that align with one another, the more the certainty of the dating rises. 14C dating of the carbonate is on the "to do" list, also. If we get several greater than 50,000 B.P. dates, then we add to the certainty.

Cool time in history to stumble across some rocks, ey? 8)

Onward through the fog!!
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Paul R. Renne was born in 1957 in San Antonio, Texas. He received his A.B. with Highest Honors in Geology from the University of California, Berkeley in 1982. He received his Ph.D. in Geology from the University of California at Berkeley in 1987. After a postdoctoral fellowship at Princeton University, he returned to Berkeley in 1990 as a Research Associate at the Institute of Human Origins and became Director of Geochronology in 1991. He was the founding Director of the Berkeley Geochronology Center in 1994, and has served in that role (and as Board President) since then with a hiatus from 2000 to 2003. In 1995 Renne was appointed Adjunct Professor in the Earth and Planetary Science Department at U.C. Berkeley, where he teaches courses in petrology, geochronology and field geology, and serves as formal research advisor to graduate students and postdocs. Renne specializes in 40Ar/39Ar geochronology and paleomagnetism applied to broad topics in the evolution of Earth’s biosphere and lithosphere, and to the relationships between these and extraterrestrial processes such as meteoroid impacts in the inner solar system. He is also heavily engaged in refinement of methodologies for these techniques. Renne’s contributions to his field were recognized by the American Geophysical Union in 2005 with the Bowen Award "…for innovations in high-precision Ar-Ar dating and for application of these techniques to refining the geologic and paleomagnetic timescales, to paleoanthropology, and, most notably, to ages and durations of LIP volcanism and their relationship to mass extinctions and global environmental crises". Renne serves as a Corresponding Editor for Eos, and as Editor for Quaternary Geochronology.

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Paul reported a 1.1 million B.P. date for the Hueyatlaco Ash, overlying the artifacts recovered. Mike Waters and Paul went back down to Hueyatlaco in November, 2006, for further analyses. The whole group of researchers there in 2004 is scheduled to regroup there this year (2007). I need to find out the exact dates. :?
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Paul reported a 1.1 million B.P. date for the Hueyatlaco Ash, overlying the artifacts recovered. Mike Waters and Paul went back down to Hueyatlaco in November, 2006, for further analyses. The whole group of researchers there in 2004 is scheduled to regroup there this year (2007). I need to find out the exact dates.
That date is consistent with recent head lice findings by Clayton:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/20 ... usat_x.htm
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That date is consistent with recent head lice findings by Clayton:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/20 ... usat_x.htm
Cog! :shock:

That's very close: 1.1 versus 1.2 million B.P. Nice head's up. 8)

You ought to e-mail Clayton to see if he's aware of Renne's work.
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Cog!

That's very close: 1.1 versus 1.2 million B.P. Nice head's up.

You ought to e-mail Clayton to see if he's aware of Renne's work.
Budinger already spoke with Clayton about it, but I'll follow up by email just because my grandfather was a rebel and I share the same genetics for trouble. 8)
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Budinger already spoke with Clayton about it, but I'll follow up by email just because my grandfather was a rebel and I share the same genetics for trouble.


There's a gene for that? :?

I knew it!! It's my mother's fault. :P
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There's a gene for that?
There's a WA gene located on the y chromosome which is totally opposite from the Whatever gene located on the X chromosome. :D
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The y chromosome does not have the "shopping" gene, either.
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There's a WA gene located on the y chromosome which is totally opposite from the Whatever gene located on the X chromosome. Very Happy
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The y chromosome does not have the "shopping" gene, either.
Boy, is that the truth! :shock:
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