Global warming.

[Digit]

I think that's probably true Min.

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFoss ... _ages.html

But this link seems to show a more reasoned response than the panic press.

[Forum Monk]

Every night, five of the world's 6 billion people start cooking fires and those all release by- products as well.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/new ... thane.html

Looks like it not the cooking fire as much as the food that 5 billion eat. Among the biggest producers of methane: rice and cattle.

[Digit]

One volcanic eruption can do more damage in a short time than all the 4x4s in a year Monk. I get the impression that people feel guilty about the way they live and global warming is the equivalent of sack cloth and ashes.
'It is sinful to enjoy yourself brother, repent'.

[Minimalist]

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200702 ... 0JFG0.html


Here it comes!

PARIS (AP) - The most authoritative report on climate change is using the strongest wording ever on the source of global warming, saying it is "very likely" caused by humans and already is leading to killer heat waves and stronger hurricanes, delegates who have seen the report said Thursday.

[Beagle]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/ ... 20346.html

PARIS — The world's leading climate scientists said global warming has begun, is "very likely" caused by man, and will be unstoppable for centuries, according to a report obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

The scientists — using their strongest language yet on the issue — said now that world has begun to warm, hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries" no matter how much humans control their pollution. The report also linked the warming to the recent increase in stronger hurricanes.

"The observed widespread warming of the atmosphere and ocean, together with ice-mass loss, support the conclusion that it is extremely unlikely that global climate change of the past 50 years can be explained without external forcing, and very likely that is not due to known natural causes alone," said the report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change — a group of hundreds of scientists and representatives of 113 governments.

Lot's of dire climate reports on the net today. One says Sydney, Australia will be sunk. Another says between 20 and 60 per cent of all species will go extinct.

Sounding apocolyptic.

[stan]

This recent announcement may be as close to definitive as
we are likely to get in our lifetimes.
On NPR I heard that the findings are supposed to be "90 %" certain.
I also heard that the Chinese are acknowledging
it, due to a one- degree- celsius rise in temperature per decade over the last 2 decades in certain areas. The rise is supposed to be unevenly distributed. For example, on a rotating globe on tv, colors indicated that the upper US, is going to more heavily affected than
the southern US and Central America.

So what does the world do next? Will humans actually
begin to take action?

[Minimalist]

Just my guess.

[stan]

How about with just the feet sticking out?

[Beagle]

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/glo ... 020507.htm

Believe it or not, Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2). This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science. We are wasting time, energy and trillions of dollars while creating unnecessary fear and consternation over an issue with no scientific justification. For example, Environment Canada brags about spending $3.7 billion in the last five years dealing with climate change almost all on propaganda trying to defend an indefensible scientific position while at the same time closing weather stations and failing to meet legislated pollution targets.

No sensible person seeks conflict, especially with governments, but if we don't pursue the truth, we are lost as individuals and as a society. That is why I insist on saying that there is no evidence that we are, or could ever cause global climate change. And, recently, Yuri A. Izrael, Vice President of the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) confirmed this statement. So how has the world come to believe that something is wrong?

And now a report in the Canadien Free Press is saying exactly the opposite of the recent report from the International Panel.

[Minimalist]

I have a buddy in Winnipeg....he claimed it was -48 one morning. Obviously, Canadians have a different sense of what is "warm."

[kbs2244]

I don't think the argument is if it is happening, but if it is human caused.

I remember a science teacher I once had, in an attempt to give us a idea of the scale of the Earth told us the ratio of the differance between the deepest part of the ocean and the top of Mt Everest was less then the differance between the bottom and the top of the bumps on an orange.

In other words, the Earth is smoother than a orange.

Sure, we can pollute a river in Clevland so badly that the water will burn, but how does that compare to the global or solar system scale?

[Beagle]

That seems to be what the whole argument is about KB.

[Minimalist]

And, might a change in human behavior have any noticeable impact?

[kbs2244]

You mean we have an agreement !?!
That the key word is "noticeable"?

[Minimalist]

Apparently.