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Digit wrote: Currently TB is saying that in Iraq we will stay and 'finish the job'. Socialist governments in the past said the same in Palestine, India, Aden, and Cyprus, then cut and ran and left locals to slaughter each other when things got tough.
No Digit, not when it gets tough, usually when the puppet government falls and the new regime is not sympathetic to british or american interests in the region.
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There were no puppet governments involved in the 4 examples I quoted Monk.
One of great disasters of the 20C was the scramble by weakened European governments to get out of Africa. Few Colonial Powers made more than a token effort to establish a stable government before hauling down their flag and retreating behind their barricades.
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Don't worry about it, Dig. I happen to think that you Brits gave most of the world the best government it ever had until the burden got to be too much.
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When you look at the way the Belgians cut and ran in Angola et al and the French tried to hold back the tide I think that is true Min.
To my mind the greatest failure of British Foreign Policy was when we lost your country. By now we would be the 51 US State if things had been dealt with sensibly and that for me is something preferable to being in the EU.
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What are you saying no 'puppet' governments. Then why did you leave. (I notice you're still in Burmuda) There was a revolution going on in India for example. The decision to pull out is almost always economic. Politics, treaties, promises all fail when the money runs out.
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that for me is something preferable to being in the EU.
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There was a revolution going on in India for example.

Ever wonder how successful Ghandi would have been with his "non-violent" revolution if, say, the Russians had been in charge instead of the British?
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I'm in Wlaes Monk. The fighting in India started once we decided to leave. The Moslem League started to agitate for a separate state once it was accepted that the Raj was at an end.
The Congress party under Ghandi and Nehru wanted a single state but the League were adament. The greater part of the fighting occurred after we pulled out.
Pakistan was created from Punjab, Assam, and Kashmir, hence the name.
More Moslems live in India than in Pakistan and Bangla Desh, so quite what the division and bloodshed acheived I can't say.
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Not a cat in Hell's chance Min! In the England of the time Ghandi was a greatly respected man, he also admitted that his policy could only have worked against us. Remember, he was educated here and understood us well.
When Pathe News showed his death at the cinemas it was accompanied by sombre music and the news papers reported it with sorrow.
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so quite what the division and bloodshed acheived I can't say.

An occasional riot or bombing.
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On tonight's "Real Time With Bill Maher" he did a short takeoff on "The Tomb of Jesus."

He called it "The Search for Santa Claus." I'll have to see if I can record it next time and make a short video out of it. Maher concentrated on Cameron....maybe he has trouble pronouncing Jacobovici?
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http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/artic ... 30318.html
WASHINGTON — Leading archaeologists in Israel and the United States are denouncing the purported discovery of the tomb of Jesus as a publicity stunt.

Scorn for the Discovery Channel's claim to have found the burial place of Jesus, Mary Magdalene and — most explosively — their possible son came not just from Christian scholars but also from Jewish and secular experts who said their judgments were unaffected by any desire to uphold Christian orthodoxy.
This is quite a shock, huh?
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Archaeoporn?
Let's see how far that expression travels.
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Yeah Monk, that was great. This whole thing is going to be talked about for quite a while I think. Still watching the discussion.
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I've got to wait another 20 minutes for it to start.

Watching something which tears the Noah's Ark story to shreds. Luckily, I'm recording it as well so I can send it to Arch.

You remember how he felt about Arks!
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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