Global warming.

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:43 pm

As we discussed before, in a macro sense, nothing extraordinary is occuring. We're ca. 12,000-13,000 B.P. into a CO2/ Global warming event...i.e.- an interglacial.

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:58 pm

Minimalist wrote:Hmmm..... starting to remind me of Jacobovici and Cameron!

I had mentioned a few pages ago, that Durkin had a 'history" and anyone interested need to look at the Wiki article about him. I had heard before Professor Wunsch felt misrepresented. These charges detract from an interesting film which still made some compelling points against the idea the we are soon to enter a "global state of emergency" as Gore put it in recent congressional address.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:27 pm

Alright guys, I have only read the last two pages of this forum, but I feel inclined to put in my 2 cents anyway. Despite the political rhetoric, the dem and rep bashing, it is obvious that we are in a state of global warming, that this is a natural state, it is cyclical just like everything else on this earth. I think it is equally obvious that it doesn't really matter what we do or don't do, the atmosphere is going to warm, and eventually we will crash back into a period of glaciation. That said, it seems to me, that we should still be concerned about how we treat the earth we depend on for our survival, we should take care of every aspect of her health, and stop causing damage we cannot repair. That includes introducing what I would call 'ferril" gasses such as Chloroflorocarbons (sp), genetically altering our food sources and messing with mosquitos! I don't know about you guys, but I enjoy walking in the woods and breathing "fresh" air. And personally I think the only real hope for this world is another mass extinction. (btw, I'm glad to have time again to participate).

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:41 pm

Welcome back.

As I said somewhere else, there are plenty of good reasons to conserve oil, develop biofuels and hydrogen powered cars that have nothing to do with global warming.

It would lessen the stranglehold on the earth that the OPEC nations currently have.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:45 pm

I knew I should have read the entire thread before commenting, but I was being "lazy"

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:28 pm

Some of these threads need Cliff Notes versions.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:30 am

Thanks for the graph Charley I'll study it later when I've finished gardening.
RW, I think you have probably summed up the viewpoint of many of us in this forum, even if everything is ok that does mean we should continue raping our home planet.
We do not own this planet, we are just passing through.

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:58 am

I think you have probably summed up the viewpoint of many of us in this forum, even if everything is ok that does mean we should continue raping our home planet.
We do not own this planet, we are just passing through.

I certainly agree with that.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:45 am

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:52 am

That joke really applies here in Tennesse. It's March, for cryin' out loud, and I have to forego planting my peas and I'm going straight to pole beans.

I wonder if early agriculturists had to deal with this shit. I won't starve though.

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:18 am

Don't you think the hysteria over global warming is causing you to talk like that? Ten years ago, you would have just thought it an unusually nice spring. You would have been grateful for it. Now it seems every weather anomoly is tied to global warming.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:36 am

Forum Monk wrote:Don't you think the hysteria over global warming is causing you to talk like that? Ten years ago, you would have just thought it an unusually nice spring. You would have been grateful for it. Now it seems every weather anomoly is tied to global warming.

It could be, but, at least here in Oregon, we have been having a fair number of "nice springs" over the past few years. Our snow topped mountains are naked by june, where in the past they continued in glimmering white all year 'round. But still I believe it is a natural cycle, and "IF" we have had anything to do with it we have "MAYBE" accelerated it by a second or two. I do miss getting a couple feet of snow in the middle of winter (for a day or two) I really miss the thunder storms we used to have. and I hate HOT. (summer is not even on my list of favorites, give me a windy rainy day anytime).
I do agree with you that every little change in the weather these days are attributed to "global warming" and the media is responsible for the populations general belief that we are the soul cause of the situation.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:44 am

Forum Monk wrote:Don't you think the hysteria over global warming is causing you to talk like that? Ten years ago, you would have just thought it an unusually nice spring. You would have been grateful for it. Now it seems every weather anomoly is tied to global warming.

I haven't noticed any hysteria, only apathy. Most people are deluded in thinking that somehow the government is going to "do something".

These "unusually nice springs" are routine here now, and they do effect crop growth. I'd much prefer a cool breeze in the summer.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:44 am

Is it me Charley or can nobody else see any relationship between the curves on that graph?

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:51 am

We have all noted that global warming is a fact. It is part of a natural cycle. Has anyone reached the conclusion that we will not see the end of this cycle in our lifetime?

Albeit natural, this forum is chock full of instances of civilizations that came to an end because of climate change.

We have not discussed the implications of global warming that this and the next generation will have to confront.