Unintelligent Design

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:21 am

archaeologist wrote:[...] the Bible is the best place to start [...]

Which one?

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:42 am

the Bible is the best place to start

Actually, it is about the worst place to start.

In the early 20th century, religious based institutions descended like locusts on Palestine seeking, with each turn of a shovel, to find evidence that the bible story was factual. Naturally, as they were seeking such evidence they found it. Except modern scholarship and dating techniques have proven that virtually all of their initial determinations were little more than wishful thinking. The problem is, as you demonstrate every day, this religious driven fervor has provided a point in time for people like you to stick your head in the sand and claim that the bible is "true" when it manifestly is not.

archaeologist17 · Post by **archaeologist17** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:40 pm

In the early 20th century, religious based institutions descended like locusts on Palestine seeking, with each turn of a shovel, to find evidence that the bible story was factual

to a point i agree with you. some were bad.

Except modern scholarship and dating techniques have proven that virtually all of their initial determinations were little more than wishful thinking.

actually that is not true. dating techniques may have actually aided the Biblical chronology but there are those out there that donot listen and remain steadfast on outdated material. bt that goes for the other side as well.

this religious driven fervor has provided a point in time for people like you to stick your head in the sand and claim that the bible is "true" when it manifestly is not.

that is your opinion based on the ignorance of archaeological data. even kathleen kenyon's work at jericho is being put under the microscope as she made many errors in her conclusions. plus you have to rememebr that not one archaeological discovery has proven the Bible false. even the ancient civilizations, beyond the Hittites , that are mentioned in the Bible are being found to be accurate along with manyof the kings, pharoahs and other rulers who are mentioned by name.

so in reality, it is you that needs to re-think his position about the Bible if you are honest enoughto look at all the evidence.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:45 pm

Yeah, Bob, you ought to think about that for a minute...
Then join me in merry laughter

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:06 pm

I re-think it constantly. Every time a new study comes out which undermines that sad relic of a bygone age, I consign the bible account to a lower rung on the probability ladder.

Right now, it occupies a rung somewhere between "Wishful Thinking" and "Total Bullshit."

Then, I join R/S for that merry laugh!

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:57 am

Minimalist wrote:[...] Every time a new study comes out which undermines that sad relic of a bygone age, I consign the bible account to a lower rung on the probability ladder.

Right now, it occupies a rung somewhere between "Wishful Thinking" and "Total Bullshit." [...]

I wish it were as innocent as that. The bible is a social mindf#@#.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:18 am

I wish it were as simple as that. The bible is a social mindfuck.

Right now, it occupies a rung somewhere between "Wishful Thinking" and "Total Bullshit

it is nice to see open minds in action. with such attitudes it is no wonder i have allowed myself to get busy and contribute here less. your pre-determined mindset disspell any illusion of having a decent discussion on any topic.

it is quite apparant that you only want a discusion slanted in your favor so there really is no point in rebutting anything you say or your 'experts' dream up.

again, it is highly unlikely that a non-believing archaeologist is going to be honest and allow the evidence to prove the Bible true. in the unlikely event someone did, they would be hooted down by all those who reject its record.

Frank Harrist · Post by **Frank Harrist** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:17 am

...and vice versa. If this place sucks so bad why don't you leave? We can't explain anything to a guy wearing blinders anyway. You ignore our evidence or dismiss it out of hand, so what's the point of you even coming here? You're no archaeologist. You're a theologian or some ignorant shit. Go away! You're just an annoyance.

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:39 pm

God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters.

-- H. L. Mencken

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:42 pm

You're no archaeologist. You're a theologian or some ignorant shit. Go away! You're just an annoyance.

with sweet talk like that, i have to stay. i am just leveling the playing field

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:56 am

God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters.

-- H. L. Mencken

That Mencken guy has 20/20 eyesight.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:06 am

Do a search on Google for Mencken quotations...he'll keep you entertained and thinking for hours.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:12 am

sounds like menken was a bitter old man, who was jealous of love and acceptance others had found but he rejected,

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:56 am

Sound familiar, eh.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:42 am

archaeologist wrote:sounds like menken was a bitter old man, who was jealous of love and acceptance others had found but he rejected,

I guess reading the bible is cheaper than Prozac....and the long term side effects on the brain are about the same.