Buddha Buddies

[daybrown]

[/img]file:///home/day/Desktop/budbudy.jpg
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Lessee if the photos get pasted in first...[/img]

[Sam Salmon]

If you want to post photos they first need to be hosted somewhere on the net-you can't upload directly from your computer.

[Minimalist]

Create an account at photobucket.com, DB.

Upload your pictures to it and then copy the urls to paste in your post.

[daybrown]

damn not reading close enuf.
they are hosted at
[img]http://www.dc-pc.org/artifax/budabuds.jpg
http://www.dc-pc.org/artifax/budbudy.jpg[/img]

seen at the bottom of http://www.dc-pc.org/artifax/artifax.html
which may take a while to load, there's so many photos there.

My point is, I've seen that red hair and big snoze in synagogues, up close & personal. I've lived in the dorms and work with some, and played against them in chess matches.

Everybody knows they are Ashkenazic Jews, but few realize they dont have any more Semetic DNA in them than I do. They may well be the purest Aryan race around, and somebody ought to let the anti-Semites know. Some of the Askenazi fled Islam & the Mongols into Europe, but some had already moved into what is now NW China, and as we see here, were Buddhist.

Of course, the independent city states they lived in never had a "Jewish Problem" with their banking and government.

[daybrown]

This work?

[kbs2244]

Worked great!
What is the source of the pics?

[Rokcet Scientist]

I've been mis-identified as a jew – by jews! – more than 2 dozen times. Yet I have not a drop of jewish blood in me. Which goes to demonstrate that even jews can't recognize jews.
One of my closest buddies for, then, 15 years (now 30) turned out to be a jew. Yet I had never even remotely suspected anything of the sort. If anything, he looks more germanic than anything else.
I.o.w. appearance is an extremely shaky foundation for pathological identification. Its value demonstrably less than that of the lie detector as legal evidence.

Worse: are jews even a 'race'?
Afaik it's more a (whole palet of) culture(s).

I think you're jumping to conclusions to think those are jews, DB. I wouldn't like go to any further than to assume the people in those images were probably caucasians.
Of course there's a wide variety in those too.

[Forum Monk]

Agreed R/S. Sixty plus years ago, the Nazi's were hard at work trying to identify and classify the physical characteristics of "jews". In may ways, their conclusions appeared as gross caricatures rather than actual human bengs. But red-headed chinese? Where did they come from?

[daybrown]

Photos from "The Mummies of Urumchi" by Barber. Urumchi is at least as old as Alexandria, and is still an important provincial Capital in NW China. It was the Eastern terminus of the Northern, summer, Silk Road route thru southern Siberia.

Barber also shows "Cherchen man", 6'6", and "Cherchen woman" at 6 foot, from the southern route, from 1000 BC. The "Beauty of Loulan" dates from 2000 BC, and one from Zawrighul, is 1800 BC... you can see her red hair. There's also a baby with blue stones covering the eyes.

I think by the time of the Chou trade increased to the point where Chinese were being buried in Tocharian graveyards. Barber shows Shang figure heads with round eyes, and mentions texts that say Tocharians were hired into the Shang court as astrologers & magicians.

But the Tocharian oasis towns were a bitch to get to. So, the gene pool was uniformly Aryan. But more than that, it was also matriarchic, so men who could not handle women in power found lotsa other places to go to.

By prostituting their daughters, the women who owned the shipping businesses got all the goons they wanted to guard their caravans. But because of herbal birth control, they only bred with men of the merchant class, which we see now as the Askenazic Jews.

They were in business for thousands of years, so they had plenty of time to figure out what traits would be handed down by men, the same as any other stud stock. I believe they are still at it. I usta know a lot of Jewish women, and none of them had stupid stud muffins.

But since they are not really a 'race', of course there are many others around who look "Jewish". Which is easy to confuse with just being smart. Of course, that does not mean that they cannot also be neurotic fools.

I didnt mean to say that these Buddhists were Jews, but that they came out of the same mercantile gene pool we now find Ashkenazic Jews in. I have often argued that the original Aryans, aka Proto-Indo-Europeans, were not a race but a merchant class, just as an English speaking merchant class is spreading its culture and language all over the world.

It was this, and not military conquest which spread Aryan culture- which is more evident among the more wealthy classes just as American is now. Then as now, the office managers recognize talent, But back then, since women ran things, when they found a suitable stud, they passed him around for the future benefit of the firm rather than trying to keep his Y chromosome for just herself.

If you had the power in a Transnational today, isnt that what you'd do?

[Rokcet Scientist]

[...] when they found a suitable stud, they passed him around for the future benefit of the firm rather than trying to keep his Y chromosome for just herself. [...]

See! I was born in the wrong place at the wrong time!
No, seriously, that's quite a statement, DB. Got any corroborating documentation, links, to share?

[john]

Photos from "The Mummies of Urumchi" by Barber. Urumchi is at least as old as Alexandria, and is still an important provincial Capital in NW China. It was the Eastern terminus of the Northern, summer, Silk Road route thru southern Siberia.

Barber also shows "Cherchen man", 6'6", and "Cherchen woman" at 6 foot, from the southern route, from 1000 BC. The "Beauty of Loulan" dates from 2000 BC, and one from Zawrighul, is 1800 BC... you can see her red hair. There's also a baby with blue stones covering the eyes.

I think by the time of the Chou trade increased to the point where Chinese were being buried in Tocharian graveyards. Barber shows Shang figure heads with round eyes, and mentions texts that say Tocharians were hired into the Shang court as astrologers & magicians.

But the Tocharian oasis towns were a bitch to get to. So, the gene pool was uniformly Aryan. But more than that, it was also matriarchic, so men who could not handle women in power found lotsa other places to go to.

By prostituting their daughters, the women who owned the shipping businesses got all the goons they wanted to guard their caravans. But because of herbal birth control, they only bred with men of the merchant class, which we see now as the Askenazic Jews.

They were in business for thousands of years, so they had plenty of time to figure out what traits would be handed down by men, the same as any other stud stock. I believe they are still at it. I usta know a lot of Jewish women, and none of them had stupid stud muffins.

But since they are not really a 'race', of course there are many others around who look "Jewish". Which is easy to confuse with just being smart. Of course, that does not mean that they cannot also be neurotic fools.

I didnt mean to say that these Buddhists were Jews, but that they came out of the same mercantile gene pool we now find Ashkenazic Jews in. I have often argued that the original Aryans, aka Proto-Indo-Europeans, were not a race but a merchant class, just as an English speaking merchant class is spreading its culture and language all over the world.

It was this, and not military conquest which spread Aryan culture- which is more evident among the more wealthy classes just as American is now. Then as now, the office managers recognize talent, But back then, since women ran things, when they found a suitable stud, they passed him around for the future benefit of the firm rather than trying to keep his Y chromosome for just herself.

If you had the power in a Transnational today, isnt that what you'd do?

Well........

Lets open this up a little more. "Type B" blood. Maybe 10k years ago, type B made its way from "somewhere in asia" to europe. The Scythians are commonly blamed.

Part of type B went way North, and the majority went South.

I'm B negative - the doctor nearly fell on the floor - given that I'm a 6'2" Northern european type whose forebears in Denmark go back to about 1k AD.

So maybe type B went from West to East before it went from East to West.

john

[Digit]

No DB, there is no such thing as a Jewish race any more than there is a Catholic race.
I am Askenazi, and I have never been identified as a jew byanyone. One chap found out by spending time telling me what a wonderful job Hitler had done. Fortunately for both of us he was a faster runner than me!

[Rokcet Scientist]

[...] I'm a 6'2" Northern european type whose forebears in Denmark go back to about 1k AD. [...]

Unless you have clues that your forebears came from elsewhere, around 1k AD, there is the potential that they could well already have been there for many more millennia, imo.
Afaik the oldest Danish cultures we currently know about, the "Ertebølle culture", dates back to 5,300 yrs BC.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erteb%C3%B8lle_culture

[Beagle]

Photos from "The Mummies of Urumchi" by Barber. Urumchi is at least as old as Alexandria, and is still an important provincial Capital in NW China. It was the Eastern terminus of the Northern, summer, Silk Road route thru southern Siberia.

Barber also shows "Cherchen man", 6'6", and "Cherchen woman" at 6 foot, from the southern route, from 1000 BC. The "Beauty of Loulan" dates from 2000 BC, and one from Zawrighul, is 1800 BC... you can see her red hair. There's also a baby with blue stones covering the eyes.

I think by the time of the Chou trade increased to the point where Chinese were being buried in Tocharian graveyards. Barber shows Shang figure heads with round eyes, and mentions texts that say Tocharians were hired into the Shang court as astrologers & magicians.

But the Tocharian oasis towns were a bitch to get to. So, the gene pool was uniformly Aryan. But more than that, it was also matriarchic, so men who could not handle women in power found lotsa other places to go to.

By prostituting their daughters, the women who owned the shipping businesses got all the goons they wanted to guard their caravans. But because of herbal birth control, they only bred with men of the merchant class, which we see now as the Askenazic Jews.

They were in business for thousands of years, so they had plenty of time to figure out what traits would be handed down by men, the same as any other stud stock. I believe they are still at it. I usta know a lot of Jewish women, and none of them had stupid stud muffins.

But since they are not really a 'race', of course there are many others around who look "Jewish". Which is easy to confuse with just being smart. Of course, that does not mean that they cannot also be neurotic fools.

I didnt mean to say that these Buddhists were Jews, but that they came out of the same mercantile gene pool we now find Ashkenazic Jews in. I have often argued that the original Aryans, aka Proto-Indo-Europeans, were not a race but a merchant class, just as an English speaking merchant class is spreading its culture and language all over the world.

It was this, and not military conquest which spread Aryan culture- which is more evident among the more wealthy classes just as American is now. Then as now, the office managers recognize talent, But back then, since women ran things, when they found a suitable stud, they passed him around for the future benefit of the firm rather than trying to keep his Y chromosome for just herself.

If you had the power in a Transnational today, isnt that what you'd do?

Well........

Lets open this up a little more. "Type B" blood. Maybe 10k years ago, type B made its way from "somewhere in asia" to europe. The Scythians are commonly blamed.

Part of type B went way North, and the majority went South.

I'm B negative - the doctor nearly fell on the floor - given that I'm a 6'2" Northern european type whose forebears in Denmark go back to about 1k AD.

So maybe type B went from West to East before it went from East to West.

john

All blood types exist everywhere john, but by viewing this map of type B blood in native populations it's pretty easy to see that it originated in Asia.



And as you can see, type A is not "rare" in Northern Europe.

[daybrown]

Theres "A", "B", and then there's "AB" blood. Which my medical transcriptionist says is not Chinese.

I wish the sources for the Mosou were more informative, but they seem to have been living in SW China for centuries, in the Eastern Himalayas. Also in the Western Himalayas, you find the matriarchic system where farms are handed down in the female line, where the wife takes several husbands, and then, as operations expand, "co-wives". Which is not that different from what the Mosou do.

They also found a remote community in NW Tibet that speaks an Indo-European language. All this makes sense when you realize that as the Mongol invasions began, people fled up into the Himalayas. The Tibetans had already, on several occasions, come down invading Khotan and other cities in the Taklamakhan, and the Mongols seemed to understand they were no match for the Tibetans in the mountains. Its the one part of Asia they did not touch.

Also, when you look at Tibetan Buddhist scripture, you may be able to notice that it is written in the Tocharian, not Indian, Sanskrit font. The artwork also looks more like the Buddha buddies in the cited links.

Now, as to the current situation- the Mosou grandmothers own the real estate and businesses that men and women work in. I have no data on who the sperm donors are, but merely look at it from their perspective of who they would want to take over in the next generation.

The Mosou community is not so large, that over the centuries, they'd have some idea of the effect of the Y chromosome. I see that knowledge expressed in my own neck of Ozark woods, where everyone knows which family lines produced the moonshiners and drunks (and now meth heads), and which were hard working honorable men who took care of their families. Its real easy to tell when farm families have 4 or more boys, how 80% of them take after their fathers.

It helps as well with a homogeneous population; the Arkansas Ozarks are 99% white, with some portion of Cherokee blood, perhaps 30%. Its not tracked by the school systems, but the families know. Simply put, Jackasses have jackass sons. I think the Mosou would've figured that out.

And not knowing the lineage of the men who want to join their communities no doubt gives them pause. Altho- to what extent they now can access modern DNA technology would be a critical factor.

Be that as it may, its just a no brainer from the standpoint of the evolution of the Global Market and corporate culture. As women have moved twards the boardrooms, policy that began with healthcare added childcare and family leave. Adding fertility services would significantly reduce the cost of health insurance, result in healthier kids, and less time off by the moms taking care of sick kids. "Its the economy stupid".

And just as boardrooms have always made room for sons in the organization, so also as women move into the boardrooms, they'll make room for the daughters. But now- armed with the DNA data, they know they'll be making room for a next generation that is far more reliably talented, which we all know will translate into more *profit* later on.

Because boardmembers have not been as selective in the wombs that bear their sons, the idiot son of upper management has become a standard corporate icon. We wont be seeing that with the daughters.

This same process was carried on in the shipping offices of the Silk Road, where the women could access the sperm of any talented merchants passing thru. No doubt, over the centuries they figured out the effect. This eventually built up a transnational merchant class with its own language, just as the Gypsies have in a different line of work.

Neither the part of the class that moved into Europe as Ashkenazic Jews, nor the Gypsies is recognized as a race. But in both cases there are statistical characteristics of the gene pool. The former have higher IQ, the latter have more alcoholism. The latter are mysogenistic, the former are patriarchic, but only in outward forms. Its the women who run the synagogues with a rabbi as front man. And now, they're even creating women rabbis.