Neanderthal News

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:55 pm

The reason we have as many fossils of HN as we do is because he buried his dead. Even at that, we don't have that many.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:00 pm

Agreed RS, presumably there have been a lot more Mammoths around than men.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:13 pm

Digit wrote:Agreed RS, presumably there have been a lot more Mammoths around than men.

Of course. But also: if there were so many mammoths, there must have been a concentration of hunters(/gatherers) too. And I'd settle for just a handful of human fossils. But afaik that's precisely the problem: none have been 'caught' sofar where there should have been.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:33 pm

Beagle wrote:This might be fun, and even informative. Please take a look at these images (I'm not addressing anybody in particular). When you see an image that looks like a Homo Sapien, then check where the skull was found. This is what physical anthropologists have to deal with.

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-hominina-fossils

They've got a tough job imo.

This post definately got lost in the frenetic pace of the days earlier posting. I'm bringing it forward as I think it's interesting for members and readers.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:47 pm

Nice perspective.
Although I miss whatsisname "Chad Man" and his cousin. Bipeds from the Sahel region. About 6 or 7 million yrs BP, if I recall.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:14 am

I guess I'm not very familiar with Chad Man - but that's really old. I was really struck by the fact that I really didn't see any powerful evidence that Homo Sapien came "Out of Africa". Of course that is my layman viewpoint.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:27 am

RS, been a difficult morning, hence the late response.
The one in 100 million is probably bullshit as there is very much a scale effect in preservation/fossilisation. The leg bones of a giant Dino are vastly more likely to survive down to us the than a similar structure of a Shrew, often in the case of such small mammals teeth alone surviving to tell of their existance.
This inevitably skews are view of the past as the survivability rates must favour, for example, Mammoth's teeth over those of HSS.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:17 am

Beagle wrote:
I guess I'm not very familiar with Chad Man - but that's really old.

I meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahelanthropus_tchadensis, which I now see has been reclassified as a miocene ape, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrorin_tugenensis, therefore currently supposed to be the earliest known biped/hominin.

This is a snap I found supposing to be Orrorin:

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Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:53 am

Alas, poor Yorick, I knew him well!

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:07 am

Yorick was one ugly fella.

BTW Min - check out "Digging for the Truth" tonight. Olmecs. I'm not getting my hopes up.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:09 am

RS, I do remember that now. Quite a debate for awhile. The debate about Omo is still going on also.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:31 am

Beagle wrote:Yorick was one ugly fella.

BTW Min - check out "Digging for the Truth" tonight. Olmecs. I'm not getting my hopes up.

If you can, guys, I'd very much appreciate it if you could rip it and distribute it here through http://www.yousendit.com/ (you upload to your own mail address, you get a link in the mail, you post that link here).
Or some other similar service of course.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:39 am

Rokcet Scientist wrote:
Beagle wrote:Yorick was one ugly fella.

BTW Min - check out "Digging for the Truth" tonight. Olmecs. I'm not getting my hopes up.
If you can, guys, I'd very much appreciate it if you could rip it and distribute it here through http://www.yousendit.com/ (you upload to your own mail address, you get a link in the mail, you post that link here).
Or some other similar service of course.

RS, I didn't post a pic or a link. So I'm a little lost. Are you unable to see the pics I post? If so, I'll use that link.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:47 am

Beagle wrote:
Rokcet Scientist wrote:
Beagle wrote:Yorick was one ugly fella.

BTW Min - check out "Digging for the Truth" tonight. Olmecs. I'm not getting my hopes up.
If you can, guys, I'd very much appreciate it if you could rip it and distribute it here through http://www.yousendit.com/ (you upload to your own mail address, you get a link in the mail, you post that link here).
Or some other similar service of course.
RS, I didn't post a pic or a link. So I'm a little lost. Are you unable to see the pics I post? If so, I'll use that link.

Confusion:
with 'check out "Digging for the Truth" tonight. Olmecs' I thought you were referring to a TV show.
If so, I think it would be interesting for us non-US'rs too.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:54 am

OK. You're right, I was referring to a US show. The only way that those shows have been shared in the past has been through Min. taping them and sending them out over Pando. If there is another way I don't know about it RS.

The show will be on tonight, but I suspect it won't be as good as I hope. You may know of a way for you to view it but I'm just not that savvy.

Maybe Min has some thoughts.