Forget global warming - look at root causes

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:15 pm

But wait...Mitt Romney was governor there. You don't mean to suggest that he's lying, do you?

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:19 pm

Ya lost me Min. Lying about what?

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:20 pm

His "conservative" credentials.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:23 pm

Probably.

But governors don't set tax rates anyway. That states position has having the highest taxes have been there since he was a baby. Maybe his Dad did it.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:25 pm

There was a great poem, done in Dr. Seuss style, about Newt Gingrich and his budget balancing agenda. I wonder if I can find it online.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:29 pm

Well, that took no time at all!

The Gingrich That Stole Congress
by Mike Corso CNI Telecom

Every Rep down in Congress liked Clinton somewhat,
Except for Newt Gingrinch, who simply did NOT!
He hated Bill Clinton! He hated his wife!
He vowed to torment them the rest of his life!

The Ging hated anyone left of the Huns,
He hated the wusses who didn't like guns.
He hated the teachers who wouldn't lead prayers,
He hated the people who'd tax millionaires!
He hated "McGoverniks" whining 'bout rights,
Like equal protection for gays and nonwhites.

He hated the folks who said "Nicotine kills"
And vowed he would pass more pro-nicotine bills.
He hated the folks who said "Women need choice"
And vowed to give middle-aged males more voice.
But he hated the people on welfare much more;
He hated the way they were POOR POOR POOR!

He hated the way they had no jobs at all!
This struck him as heaploads of GALL GALL GALL!
They also lacked training and day care. So what?
The Gingrinch announced he'd come up with a plot:
"Get off of Welfare! Get off today!
Or we will take all of your children AWAY!"

Now, no one knew what made the Ging such a meanie:
It could be because he was built like a weenie.
It could be because he had Donahue hair,
Or maybe because not much lurked under there.
But probably what most explained the man's life
Was the fact he abandoned his children and wife.

Yes, 'way down in Georgia, his wife lay near dead
Sickened with cancer, in a hospital bed.
He crept in to see her (they let him, of course)
And whispered, quite sweetly, "I want a divorce!"

He whipped out his pencil with something like zeal
And got down to work on his alimony deal.
And while she was whimpering he said, "By the way,
I'm leaving for somebody younger - hooray!!"

The Gingrinch's heart shrank two sizes that night.
And that may be what makes him so far Christian Right.

Now, the night before Congress the Ging hatched his plans:
From now on he'd speak for, quote, "Normal Americans."
Tax-slashers! That's what those "Normal" folks lov!
He'd take to the skies and dismantle the gov!

He jumped out of bed and he summoned his pet:
A Doberman Pinscher who once killed a vet.
George was his name (as in Wallace, not Bush);
"Boy!" said the Gingrinch, "We're gonna whip tush!"

They flew to a soup kitchen, filled with sad "bums,"
Snatched up the kettle and stole all the crumbs.
They flew to a basketball game late at night
And shooed the kids out, to the dealers' delight.

They unplugged mass transit and cried "Buy a car!"
Then chopped down a forest and chomped a cigar.
What bliss! What fun! What downright glee!
What joy! What yuks! What great TV!

The next day the Gingrinch sat high above you
And looked down on Congress (as many folks do).
He wanted to relish the joy and the cheer
Of folks waking up to their first tax-free year.

He waited and waited and waited some more;
He waited to hear them cry "Newt! Take the floor!"
He waited for kudos and champagne free-flowing,
He waited for trumpets on high to start blowing.

But instead of rejoicing and hoopla, etc.,
He heard a strange rumble that made his palms wettah

The people weren't happy, not happy at all!
They ringed 'round the Statehouse! They filled up the hall!
They groused and they grumbled and cried, "We're real mad!
We want all those costly old programs we had!

Give back our givebacks! Give back our pork!
Give back the stuff you walked off with, you dork!"
And the Gingrinch sat simply quite stunned at the sight
Of Normal Americans, not left and not right,

Who wanted clean air and wanted green trees,
Who wanted full coverage for medical fees,
Who wanted nice schools and streets safe to play --
They wanted it all - but just wouldn't pay!

And when the truth hit him, the Ging grinned a grin,
He laughed and he laughed till the tears ran down his chin.
The Clintons climbed up to the Dome, laughing too.
"Hee hee hee," Bill and Hill laughed, "Hoo hoo hoo!"

They laughed with the cheer that comes from within,
They laughed with the knowledge: You just cannot win.
The Gingrinch and Clintons now shared the same plight
Whatever they'd do, they could not do it right.

"Folks hate you," said Bill, "once you land in D.C.
But I've got a plan: Let us bond, you and me.
We'll work as a team, yes! That's my advice!
We'll listen and nod and make NICE NICE NICE!"

The Prez put his hand out, they hugged on the ledge...
And then that old Gingrinch pushed Bill off the edge.

(With apologies to Dr. Seuss.)

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:46 pm

Did somebody have time on their hands Min?

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:50 pm

Sorry, the wife just got home and had to bend my ear some.

Man, that is old. And I never understood how Gingrich got so much credit for the '94 Republican takeover of Congress after 40 yrs.

Plainly then, and now, it was Hillary's socialized medicine plan that caused it. And it's still part of her campaign platform. You'd think she would learn.

Wife calls again. Could be supper.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:18 pm

Somehow the rest of the industrialized world manages to have a national health care program.

One wonders why we can't seem to manage it.

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:26 pm

Minimalist wrote:Somehow the rest of the industrialized world manages to have a national health care program.

One wonders why we can't seem to manage it.

Who's lobbying against it?

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:40 pm

Who's lobbying against it?

Anyone with experience of it Monk, at least the British version.

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:55 pm

Where-as I support the idea of providing a level of basic care to those in need, I wonder about the significant privacy issues involved in having government agencies scrutinizing ones medical history. Also, I have no doubt that the already confusing and often misleading insurance industry will become an even worse nightmare if everything need pass through federal review. Potentially, it is a recipe for utter disaster.
It would need redesigned from the ground up, in my opinion.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:06 pm

The problem with our system is that the government insists on managing it, not health workers. Currently we have more managers than nursing staff for crying out loud.
A Brit consultant recently complained that he was responsible to 94 individuals or organisations.
In the USSR the government at one time paid nail producers on the number they produced, billions of small nails were produced, but 6inch nail became non-existant.
Same with anything a government does.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:12 pm

The health care industry comprises nearly 1/8 of the US economy. It is the best system in the world. To say that some citizens don't have access to health care means that all those illegal immigrants have been paying for it.

If anyone thinks Social Security is a sound retirement system, then vote for socialized medicine. The fact is, as we all know, the government took the SS funds.

And now there is an effort to grab an eighth of the economy. What a nightmare.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:26 pm

My advice Beag would be what ever system you favor keep the damned government out of it.
As you know I am currently going through our system, the staff, from my own Doctor, through consultants, nursing staff, clinical staff, advisors, para medics, are without exception beyond reproach, but a more pissed off bunch of professionals you could not find.
My consultant offered me a number of therapies, he was not permitted to make any recommendations in case something went wrong and I sued! I got around that with some carefully worded questions.
Then the computer system went down and my appointment was lost, next the surgeon went sick, I swear, then his replacement was dismissed, now I'm receiving therapy whilst they try to get get on top of the problems.
I don't honestly believe that a privately run, profit making concern, would permit of any of this!