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So what's the solution, Digit? Infanticide, genital mutilation, forced abortion or castration, paying people NOT to have kids?Digit wrote:Once again I find myself on the opposite side of the discussion. It isn't a shortage of food that is our main problem, it's too many people having too many kids!
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In the West, the birth rate is under control...in fact, in Europe and Russia it is a concern.
It's the Third World types who are breeding themselves into ruin and, no, I have no clue how to get them to stop.
Nature may have to do it for them.
It's the Third World types who are breeding themselves into ruin and, no, I have no clue how to get them to stop.
Nature may have to do it for them.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin
Smart career women are already showing us the solution. Seeing the men in their professions are already married to airhead sexy bimbos, they've begun going to fertility clinics to select among thousands of more promising Y chromosome lines.
I've read that there's even morphing software that will merge a woman's look with that of a sperm donor. I take that with a grain of salt, recalling from the farm how much more often the kids in large farm families looked like the father.
So far, the video from CNN and PBS on the results show all the kids are towheads. A few are now entering college, all white and fair. And in any case, smart, emotionally stable, sociable, and charismatic. It begins to look like Plato's republic, only there's a preference for Uberwench.
But then I've asked online to deafening silence, is this only for rich white women? OR- should these fertility clinic services be made available to welfare queens? Its not upta me what Y chromosome lines the women, who ever they may be, of whatever ethnicity, should select.
Or whether they should also use in vitro from talented female lines as well. But we can all see that women who bear smart trophy blondes will be very well taken care of later in life by daughters who marry rich or become very successful in the transnationals, or both.
I've also seen a panel of nurses finally admit, that if what they want are more talented girls to take up the profession after them, the girls need to come from their own mtDNA lines. Likewise teachers, guidance counselors, social workers, and all the rest to are now supporting the social safety nets.
Few daughters of the welfare queens can cut it, and now the case loads are going thru the roof. The Human Genome data is coming in, and it dont look good for liberal sensibilities regarding racism.
But it dont look so good for the white supremacists either. Their jackass Y chromosomes will no longer be needed in the gene pools.
So- I've been advocating that we setup an NGO to offer fertility clinic services to young women of all races. But, it'd also be nice to offer placement in new FEMA trailer villages in rurual areas where the women, (and whatever men they choose to have with that dont present risks of voilence, rape, or sexual abuse) where they can grow the wholesome organic food to raise their kids on to maximize mental potential.
We all know the hominids evolved in small villages, and kids are not emotionally equipped to deal with mass culture. You can look back in history to see the jump in production as kids who grew up on the farm moved into urban careers. But then leveled off as the supply of farm kids declined. There's a reason for that.
I would point out to the Greens and environmentalists, that if they want to live on just their fair share of the global resources, they have to move back into communal houses. The nuclear family home just uses too much energy to heat and cool. and the alternative methods they promote take more up front investment than poor people can afford.
Likewise, the back yard garden is nice, but the village garden has an economy of scale that can compete with agribusiness since there are no shipping costs.
I frankly doubt that any of this will happen. Rather, we'll see the effects of global warming, pollution, and increased oil prices lead to economic collapse and mass starvation for most of the world.
However, the smart women I started this rant with, will prolly see what is coming down sooner, and take their kids into some remote rural area to raise them on the local resource base. I have been, for some years now, in contact with older women who invested in rural Ozark real estate for what are now obvious economic advantages that they could make available for this if it becomes necessary.
I've read that there's even morphing software that will merge a woman's look with that of a sperm donor. I take that with a grain of salt, recalling from the farm how much more often the kids in large farm families looked like the father.
So far, the video from CNN and PBS on the results show all the kids are towheads. A few are now entering college, all white and fair. And in any case, smart, emotionally stable, sociable, and charismatic. It begins to look like Plato's republic, only there's a preference for Uberwench.
But then I've asked online to deafening silence, is this only for rich white women? OR- should these fertility clinic services be made available to welfare queens? Its not upta me what Y chromosome lines the women, who ever they may be, of whatever ethnicity, should select.
Or whether they should also use in vitro from talented female lines as well. But we can all see that women who bear smart trophy blondes will be very well taken care of later in life by daughters who marry rich or become very successful in the transnationals, or both.
I've also seen a panel of nurses finally admit, that if what they want are more talented girls to take up the profession after them, the girls need to come from their own mtDNA lines. Likewise teachers, guidance counselors, social workers, and all the rest to are now supporting the social safety nets.
Few daughters of the welfare queens can cut it, and now the case loads are going thru the roof. The Human Genome data is coming in, and it dont look good for liberal sensibilities regarding racism.
But it dont look so good for the white supremacists either. Their jackass Y chromosomes will no longer be needed in the gene pools.
So- I've been advocating that we setup an NGO to offer fertility clinic services to young women of all races. But, it'd also be nice to offer placement in new FEMA trailer villages in rurual areas where the women, (and whatever men they choose to have with that dont present risks of voilence, rape, or sexual abuse) where they can grow the wholesome organic food to raise their kids on to maximize mental potential.
We all know the hominids evolved in small villages, and kids are not emotionally equipped to deal with mass culture. You can look back in history to see the jump in production as kids who grew up on the farm moved into urban careers. But then leveled off as the supply of farm kids declined. There's a reason for that.
I would point out to the Greens and environmentalists, that if they want to live on just their fair share of the global resources, they have to move back into communal houses. The nuclear family home just uses too much energy to heat and cool. and the alternative methods they promote take more up front investment than poor people can afford.
Likewise, the back yard garden is nice, but the village garden has an economy of scale that can compete with agribusiness since there are no shipping costs.
I frankly doubt that any of this will happen. Rather, we'll see the effects of global warming, pollution, and increased oil prices lead to economic collapse and mass starvation for most of the world.
However, the smart women I started this rant with, will prolly see what is coming down sooner, and take their kids into some remote rural area to raise them on the local resource base. I have been, for some years now, in contact with older women who invested in rural Ozark real estate for what are now obvious economic advantages that they could make available for this if it becomes necessary.
Any god watching me hasta be bored, and needs to get a life.
The world seems to take care of itself.
I read a story about a bright eyed Peace Corps volunteer group who went to some Africa village where the women got up a dawn to walk down to the local watering hole with jugs to bring back enough water to last the day. Lots of gossip and such, but hard work none the less.
With half the PC group being female, the decision was made that this just wasn’t right. So, with a little bit of technology, they dug a well, put a solar pump on it, and the women could sleep later.
The result, a population explosion! (Other things to do in the morning.)
Not exactly what the group was looking for since the area was one of the worst for overpopulation on the books.
But when the same volunteers came back 40 years later on a nostalgia trip, they learned that, while the well still worked, the women had learned how to not have babies. The population had stabilized.
In private interviews, it was learned that the women had a long term point of view, and realized that enough is enough.
That posting may be a lot of “pie in the sky” to us control freaks that think we have we should be able to tell others how to live their lives. But what it is saying is that if we let things work themselves out, in the end everybody will be better off.
Their message is that nobody really want to kill anybody. And, if you give them a chance, people will learn how to take care of each other. Even if it gets a little messy along the way, and the only reason is that of dirty profit.
I read a story about a bright eyed Peace Corps volunteer group who went to some Africa village where the women got up a dawn to walk down to the local watering hole with jugs to bring back enough water to last the day. Lots of gossip and such, but hard work none the less.
With half the PC group being female, the decision was made that this just wasn’t right. So, with a little bit of technology, they dug a well, put a solar pump on it, and the women could sleep later.
The result, a population explosion! (Other things to do in the morning.)
Not exactly what the group was looking for since the area was one of the worst for overpopulation on the books.
But when the same volunteers came back 40 years later on a nostalgia trip, they learned that, while the well still worked, the women had learned how to not have babies. The population had stabilized.
In private interviews, it was learned that the women had a long term point of view, and realized that enough is enough.
That posting may be a lot of “pie in the sky” to us control freaks that think we have we should be able to tell others how to live their lives. But what it is saying is that if we let things work themselves out, in the end everybody will be better off.
Their message is that nobody really want to kill anybody. And, if you give them a chance, people will learn how to take care of each other. Even if it gets a little messy along the way, and the only reason is that of dirty profit.
http://environment.independent.co.uk/article3015288.ece
Many archaeological sites are soon to be underwater.When the Neolithic farmers and hunters of Skara Brae first built their stone houses on Orkney, they were careful to place their settlement more than a mile from the coast to avoid their homes being pounded by the harsh winter storms that sweep across the Bay of Skaill.
Some 5,000 years later, the custodians of Europe's most complete prehistoric village no longer have the luxury of land to shelter them from the sea. Slowly but surely, erosion has brought the sea ever closer to the grey rock-built dwellings and now spray from the wind-whipped Atlantic regularly soaks the World Heritage Site.
A concrete seawall built in 1926 to protect Skara Brae is crumbling and before too long the water will break through the dunes and flow behind this archaeological treasure, in effect turning it into an island and putting it at greater danger from the encroaching tides. Such is the scale of the risk to the site that its managers have even discussed moving it stone by stone inland.
But while Skara Brae is so popular and so internationally important that every effort will be made to try to ensure its preservation, it is just one of many thousands of historic structures and buildings on Britain's coast that are at risk of being destroyed by erosion, storms and rising sea levels caused by climate change.
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Well good. The other side got some high profile exposure.
The kids scare me though. How many of them saw this? 60 Minutes isn’t exactly a kids show, and I doubt this will be replayed in many classrooms.
If you catch them early enough, it just becomes something they “know”. You don’t have to prove it. They have heard it so often for so long that it is undisputable.
It is the same tactic used to scare us in the 50’s about atomic bombs, in the 60’s about over population, etc, etc, etc. (Wasn’t there a Nuclear Winter somewhere in there?)
But, if you vote for me, I will fix it.
How will I fix it? Simple, I will change the subject.
If we don’t talk about it, then it isn’t a problem.
If it isn’t reported, then it didn’t happen.
The kids scare me though. How many of them saw this? 60 Minutes isn’t exactly a kids show, and I doubt this will be replayed in many classrooms.
If you catch them early enough, it just becomes something they “know”. You don’t have to prove it. They have heard it so often for so long that it is undisputable.
It is the same tactic used to scare us in the 50’s about atomic bombs, in the 60’s about over population, etc, etc, etc. (Wasn’t there a Nuclear Winter somewhere in there?)
But, if you vote for me, I will fix it.
How will I fix it? Simple, I will change the subject.
If we don’t talk about it, then it isn’t a problem.
If it isn’t reported, then it didn’t happen.
i dont really expect urbanites, so insulated from the effects of climate, to really get it. The Greenland Ice core shows global warming has been going on for 10,000 years. Granted that hominid activity may be contributing, but its not like hominid efforts now are going to stop it.
So- both those who say it is not going on, and those who say that its time to fix it, are wrong. The only question is not how to stop it, but how to adapt to it. It was that adaptation that produced the neolithic agrarian revolution. And today, like then, the thing is to pay attention to the plants if you want to keep on feeding people.
What worries me, is that those who set agricultural policy are media hacks and political demagogues, not farmers.
So- both those who say it is not going on, and those who say that its time to fix it, are wrong. The only question is not how to stop it, but how to adapt to it. It was that adaptation that produced the neolithic agrarian revolution. And today, like then, the thing is to pay attention to the plants if you want to keep on feeding people.
What worries me, is that those who set agricultural policy are media hacks and political demagogues, not farmers.
Any god watching me hasta be bored, and needs to get a life.
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