The proof of the pudding

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:11 pm

So any evidence which disproves your nonsense is fabricated, huh?

Are you sure you aren't George W. Bush?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:58 pm

So any evidence which disproves your nonsense is fabricated, huh

no, just those which are built upon half a fossil without any corroborateing evidence. i think it would be foolish to state such declarations given the scant evidence they possess.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:20 pm

Better a half a fossil than a full of shit bible!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:54 am

Better a half a fossil than a full of shit bible

it is too bad you take that attitude.

wtrfall · Post by **wtrfall** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:19 am

Well, I know that there have been fossils found in the past that were later found to be hoxes and /or were intentialy fabricated parts added on. Also, DNA has shown some fossils to be what they wereand not a missing link.

There is some criteria that should be followed by TRUE scientists.

One such find currently is of the Indonesia hobbits.
They did not "jump" to conclusions but looked at several factors to determine what they were.
some questions:

more than one exact same? yes
defect or normal? normal
full grown or child? full grown
human or other? human

these researchers apon finding one didnt run around
saying "we found little humans!!"
they fully investigated first.
and then presented
that is NOT what is happening with the above mentioned fossil.

is it????
every one starts screaming: evolution!! told you Na na

come on lets be more scientific, and wait for all the facts, regardless of your personal beliefs.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:24 am

Piltdown man was a long time ago....before electron microscopes and DNA extractions.

These days, the biggest hoaxes are forged biblical artifacts with which to stir up the fundamentalists into thinking that their particular line of bullshit has some validity.

There was a big scandal in Israel over two of the best forgeries ever just recently: the Joash tablet and the James ossuary. Much as they have done since early christian times, the residents of the area have a regular cottage industry of providing fake 'relics' to gullible fools.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:32 pm

Piltdown man was a long time ago

yes it was but it showed a vulnerbility and a desperateness on the side of evolutionists who are trying to bring purpose to their life's work. they are too willingly to jump on any bandwagonthat supports their theory that they do not allow for common sense to come in and filter their words and actions.

cas in point is this article onthe fish. a half a fossil and they are ready to say they are right, that is just not smart nor is it good science.

wtrfall · Post by **wtrfall** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:04 pm

forged biblical artifacts with

yes and that too, So scientist unfortunatly, need to view anything, even biblical documents with skeptisism at first, keep an open mind, but dont jump the gun, it saves later emmbarrasment.
Whether it is a so-called missing link or a bible document.
Same principles.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:25 pm

These forgeries were GOOD. This fellow who did it, Oded Golan, could be one of the cleverest forgers of all time. He did manage to fool experts who conducted early tests but then, when they wanted to do further tests the artifacts suddenly vanished. That made people suspicious.

It's a fascinating story and you should be able to look it up on the web quite easily.

You can start here.

http://www.laputanlogic.com/articles/20 ... 93582.html

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:15 pm

forgeries are everywhere and the Biblical field will be no exception especially since there are so many 'real' archaeologists out there looking to dis-credit the Bible.

yes, that was an inflammatory statement but it needed to be said. to often people like to create special 'rules' that seem to only apply to the religious world yet fail to realize that the same things hapen to all areas of life.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:53 pm

Wait?

Are you accusing archaeologists of forging artifiacts which don't exist?

How can that be?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:21 am

Are you accusing archaeologists of forging artifiacts which don't exist

i wouldn't accuse anyone of such a thing but i will accuse them of declaring false theories based upon scant evidence as this topic so brilliantly exemplifies.

where is your corroborating evidence for the walking wish??

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:24 am

Two weeks ago you nut-jobs were screaming for ONE example of a transitional fossil.

Now that they have one, you want another.

You know, I hate to break this to you but fossils of any species are rare because of the conditions needed to create them.

As a matter of fact, the only thing more rare than a fossil is an actual fact in that silly bible of your's.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:09 am

Two weeks ago you nut-jobs were screaming for ONE example of a transitional fossil.

this isn't one, it is a half. plus, it may not be a transitinal fossil, we only have the scientists word for it and his or their word isn't good enough.

You know, I hate to break this to you but fossils of any species are rare because of the conditions needed to create them.

i know they are rare thatis why i do not put stock in them that they are evidence for evolution but evidence for the demise of the creatures that were killed in the flood.

youwill notice that the majority of the fossils come from one time period, which proves the flood not evolution.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:24 am

A scientist's word isn't good enough but if some jerkoff preacher with a $2,000 suit and his hand out for more money tells you that "Jesus says xyz" you believe it in a heart beat.

You need to readjust the people in life that you listen too.