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A scientist's word isn't good enough
not anymore giventhe evidence i have posted onthis board concerning their 'obhectivity' and so on.
but if some jerkoff preacher with a $2,000 suit and his hand out for more money
i don't believe them either. i almost lost a friend because i criticized one of his favorite religious authors for lack of scholarship...made me angry too as he had a good topic worth investigating yet he couldn't investigae it very well.

i look for the evidence and truth in all areas of research and make up my own mind. why doyou thnk i have quoted ryan and pitmann, hapgood andothers who do not belong to the christian faith. i recognize that non-religious workers discover good evidence and they have done hard work.
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look for the evidence and truth in all areas of research and make up my own mind

No. You seek vindication. Your mind is already made up.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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i have some more quotes which i will have to post later as they are at home from a non-religious scientists that backs up my perspective on scientists and their word.

remind me later to do that
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Wouldn't miss it for the world.


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Wouldn't miss it for the world.
afraid of the truth or of having a real discussion instead of your side-tracking off topic comments?
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Given what you usually come up with I'm sure it will be more opinions from preachers than facts from scientists.

It is what I have come to expect from you.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin
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Given what you usually come up with I'm sure it will be more opinions from preachers than facts from scientists
i do not think i have quoted from preachers yet, though yo wouldn't accept any proof if it came from Billy Graham himself.
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Billy Graham?

A freaking con artist if ever there was one. Who's your next icon? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell??? Jim and Tammy Fay Baker???
The Ballad of Jim & Tammy
Jim & Tammy-Fay Baker, Tele-Evangelists
(sung to the tune of the Beverly Hillbillies)

Circa 1987-1988 - words by Tom Rucklos

Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Jim,
a rich holy-roller who got caught puttin' it in,
and then one day while rollin' in the hay,
in through the door walked Tammy Fay...
(Foiled he was... by a Texas Tick...)

Well the next thing you know Jim's not a millionaire,
and Farwell says "Jim get away from here!
Go to California and-a take Tammy too!"
So they loaded up their Cadillac
and moved to Malibu...
Beach that is...
Swimming pools, movie rights...
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin
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A freaking con artist if ever there was one
this conversation is now over. you crossed a line by mocking a true servant of God. your time is up. i will finish the other replies you have made and that will be the last i respond to you. i will still post here but i will not acknowledge your efforts.
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Damn! If I'd known all we had to do was talk shit about that charlatan Graham I woulda done it long ago. Billy Graham is the biggest of the big liars. He's the richest, the long windedest, the stupidest, and the most popular among the religious idiots. The only one who surpasses him in the field of bullshit is the one and only archy! He's just like Falwell and baker and all the other frauds, but he's just smart enough to not get caught. He probably does little kids like the catholics because they are less likely to tell. He's the most succesful fraud since jesus! They all kiss his ass.
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I always kind of wondered what Jesus would say (had he actually existed) about a slime bag like Graham or any of the others with their $2,000 suits and mansions and limousines. At least Graham is probably too old to be banging his secretary anymore.

Those phony bastards aren't too worried about that "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" stuff.

I found this on a parody site and it really does provide an understanding of you people.


10. Because the Men We Worship Were Poor Doesn't Mean We Have to Be!



While American Fundamentalists have gotten rich off of a government that gives us money and makes ours tax-exempt, we still have something to learn from our Islamic Fundamentalist brethren. After all, they have gotten what are tantamount to protection payments from the Saudi Government since its inception. I'm uncertain if religious leaders getting lots of cash for giving secular governments a cloak of piety is something we picked up from them or they stole from Billy Graham.

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Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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oh yikes ! :x
Been around long enough to know!
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If I'd known all we had to do was talk shit about that charlatan
just goes to show that whatever you have, whatever you believe is false and is nothing. whenever i have proven mypoint, provided quotes to support myposition you have been unable to respond credibly, scientifically, or even archaeologically.

you find some other method to avoid dealing with the issue that you are wrong, like running to michelle to complain when your own posts violates the rules far more than i would even dare.

you can't even abide by the rules in your responses which indicates to me that you are dishonest, closed-minded, biased, not here for a real discussion, not accepting of alternative theories or points of view. you only want to hear what you want to hear and that in and of itself is not scientific nor archaeological. neither is it truthful.

all of which discounts what you say, undermines your point and shows the folly in what you believe. if you noticed, i rarely quoted scripture but for the majority of time, i used your own people to bring my point across. one of the few times i used a christian which was del ratzsch, he was a scientist and professor of philosophy of science and if you take the time to read his book, you would see that he had no agenda, no ax to grind but was very objective in his thesis.

i happened to learn a lot about both sided by reading it. yet he is fully qualified to speak but you reject him because of his religion which again states that you are not interested in the truth, just your own point of view. it also points out your own hypocrisy thus you are not qualified to speak.

do not use the term 'scientific' as i have pointed out how arbitrary that term is and the definition changes with who uses it and what agenda they have. it cannot be exclusive for then it would not be able to define what is true and what is false. the termis just a figmentof the imagination in the heads of those who refuse to consider anything beyond the natural world.

they are the losers in the long run.
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just goes to show that whatever you have, whatever you believe is false and is nothing. whenever i have proven mypoint, provided quotes to support myposition you have been unable to respond credibly, scientifically, or even archaeologically.


Perhaps now is the time to remind you that you have never done anything except post more bible drivel in lieu of scientific evidence.

I'm starting to think you're a 12 year old who is borrowing mommy's computer.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin
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Another blow for evolution....


(and the Righteous Phonies recoil in horror!!!!)


Thanks to Rokcet Scientist who PM'd this link from another board.



http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060410/ ... 410-9.html

The fish that hunts on land
Catfish show how the first tetrapods might have caught dinner.



And the eel catfish, although a modern species, may demonstrate just how the first vertebrates graduating to land caught their dinner. Palaeontologists last week unveiled fossils of Tiktaalik roseae, a creature that had limb-like bones encased in fleshy fins (see 'The fish that crawled out of the water'). Tiktaalik roseae certainly seems to have had a fairly versatile neck, notes Van Wassenbergh.


Includes a video for those who have the bandwidth to handle such things.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

-- George Carlin
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