Anyone have any comments on Hawass' lost pyramid?

[rich]

That's easy - just tell 'em you're looking for diamonds!

[Minimalist]

Carved stone block at Puma Punku. This precision-made 6 mm wide groove contains equidistant, drilled holes. It seems impossible that these highly precision cuts were made with use of stone or copper tools.

If New Agers can explain this, I'm all ears, Ish.[/url]

[Ishtar]

Well, here's one explanation Min - from a New Age website. Still, it makes some sense:

http://www.atlantisquest.com/prehistcity.html

Of the animals represented on the Gateway of the Sun, two have been extinct for thousands of years. Jaguars and condors are still with us, but toxodons and elephants? During the Pleistocene epoch Cuverionius, an elephant-like proboscid thrived in the area, but both it and the toxodon disappeared with the Pleistocene Extinction some 11,000-12,000 years ago. ....

There are numerous other statues which have been found at Tiahuanaco, several of which have found their way into various museums. Most have the incomprehensible stiff designs scattered about on their surfaces in the typical Tiahuanaco style. Some are rather large, and others are small. Depictions of toxodons and several other extinct creatures are plentiful at Tiahuanaco. The images of these extinct animals are understandable on pottery and textiles - they could be copied by anyone from the stone monuments dotting the area; but how would such images get carved on the original buildings themselves without a live model?

...... There is one solution that can satisfy all of the above mysteries regarding the ruins of Tiahuanaco. This is none other than the geological cataclysm which affected the entire globe geologically and climatically, causing the Pleistocene extinction and the sinking of Atlantis. Thus, if Tiahuanaco was built before the end of the last Ice Age, then the depiction of the numerous Pleistocene animals (extinct for 12,000 years) are readily explainable. The other indications of the apparent age of the city (tilted seashore lines, lime deposits and silt) would then harmonize with the astronomical alignments built into the buildings. The evidence is strong, it seems to me, that Prof. Posnansky's original conclusions were correct. Thus I think it likely that Tiahuanaco was built at sea level c. 15,000 B.C. as an Atlantean port.

[Minimalist]

Thus I think it likely that Tiahuanaco was built at sea level c. 15,000 B.C. as an Atlantean port.

Ish, that is the kind of shit that drives me nuts about those people. The Andes, which were probably formed 20 million years ago, did not suddenly lift up 12,000 feet in the last 15,000 years.

However, is there no where in the world that these people can think of a port city on a LAKE?

Chicago.....Cleveland..... Geneva....Baku.....Toronto?

How many formerly lakeside towns are being left high and dry as Lake Chad dries up?

I swear, there are times when it looks as if they go out of their way to look foolish instead of simply seeing the obvious answer.

Or, in other words.....Atlantis my ass.

[rich]

Min quoted:

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Carved stone block at Puma Punku. This precision-made 6 mm wide groove contains equidistant, drilled holes. It seems impossible that these highly precision cuts were made with use of stone or copper tools.

Kind of reminds me of a prank my father pulled on my uncle when I was a little beast. He took one of those pint sized brandy bottles, drained the brandy out of it and then took a toothpick, wet the tip, put some stone dust on the tip, and proceeded to "drill" a tiny hole in the bottom of the bottle by turning the toothpick between his thumb and forefinger. Took a little while and he had to keep refreshing the stone dust on the end of the toothpick, but he got it. Course then he cleaned out the bottle good, put the brandy back in while covering the hole, put the top back on and resealed it and next day gave it to my uncle. When my uncle opened it to drink it pissed out the hole all over my uncle - pretty good prank.

Point is he drilled that hole in a glass bottle with just a toothpick and some stone dust - nice and neat and with hardly any effort. The hardest part was just going slow and letting the stonedust do its work. Very easy for them to drill the holes, and I would imagine with a stick, some water and stone dust they could have just as easily made the groove too without too much effort - just needed time.

[Cognito]

Or, in other words.....Atlantis my ass.

Dang, I'll bet nobody ever thought about looking in there!

[Minimalist]

Min quoted:

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Carved stone block at Puma Punku. This precision-made 6 mm wide groove contains equidistant, drilled holes. It seems impossible that these highly precision cuts were made with use of stone or copper tools.

Kind of reminds me of a prank my father pulled on my uncle when I was a little beast. He took one of those pint sized brandy bottles, drained the brandy out of it and then took a toothpick, wet the tip, put some stone dust on the tip, and proceeded to "drill" a tiny hole in the bottom of the bottle by turning the toothpick between his thumb and forefinger. Took a little while and he had to keep refreshing the stone dust on the end of the toothpick, but he got it. Course then he cleaned out the bottle good, put the brandy back in while covering the hole, put the top back on and resealed it and next day gave it to my uncle. When my uncle opened it to drink it pissed out the hole all over my uncle - pretty good prank.

Point is he drilled that hole in a glass bottle with just a toothpick and some stone dust - nice and neat and with hardly any effort. The hardest part was just going slow and letting the stonedust do its work. Very easy for them to drill the holes, and I would imagine with a stick, some water and stone dust they could have just as easily made the groove too without too much effort - just needed time.

I had a boss who kept a supply of styrofoam cups in his office. One of the guys in my group would pick one, 3 or 4 from the top and shove a staple through it making two tiny holes which would then do exactly the same thing. He called them dribble cups.

Easier to go through styrofoam, of course.

[Ishtar]

I know, Min

That's why I get annoyed with them too!

They have two many spaces between their thoughts - massive uncharted terrains of terra incognito - over which they are constantly taking death defying quantum leaps.

I think they must have a motto - if we can't explain it, and it's very old, then it must be Atlantean.

But that Atlantean port bit was just tagged on at the end. The bit I thought you'd be interested to see was that there were images of elephants carved on some of those stones, which have not existed in South America since the end of the Pleistocene.

[Minimalist]

Hancock spoke of the elephants, too. I think that he pointed out that the "Club" answer is that they only "look like" elephants but they are actually birds painted very close together!


The images of toxodon, another extinct animal, are harder for them to explain so they ignore them.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Have you lost the faith, Ishtar?
You're not an Anunaki anymore?

[Ishtar]

Have you lost the faith, Ishtar?
You're not an Anunaki anymore?

Nope!

Anunaki's are not New Age, RS.

We're as old as dirt.

[rich]

Uh - stay away from my jar of dirt!

[Ishtar]

Uh - stay away from my jar of dirt!

Uh - that will be difficult, as your miniscule jar is standing on my planet of earth.