Bosnian pyramids, photos

[Minimalist]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs.

You know, that's only true when someone from outside the "club" makes an assertion.

Mainstream Egyptologists assign construction of the Sphinx to Pharoah Khafre on the basis of the single syllable "Kha" which was allegedly inscribed on a now vanished inscription. Once the "club" decides something is true they require a lot of evidence to overturn their intial decision.

[Guest]

You know, that's only true when someone from outside the "club" makes an assertion

there is a statement you need to take to heart when someone disagrees with you.

Once the "club" decides something is true they require a lot of evidence to overturn their intial decision.

well you and your 'gang' seem to fit this description to a 't'. when are you going to practice what you preach??

[Minimalist]

There is no bigger 'gang' of scientific idiots than bible thumpers. In order to hang on to your fantasies you need to throw out virtually every piece of scientific information found in the last 25 years.

If some reputable archaeologist ever came out with a statement that the bible had a hint of reality you would be all over it like a starving squirrel on the last acorn on earth. You are just pissed that they all agree its a pile of shit.

[Guest]

There is no bigger 'gang' of scientific idiots than bible thumpers. In order to hang on to your fantasies you need to throw out virtually every piece of scientific information found in the last 25 years.

wishful thinking on your part. but seeing that this is about the bosnian 'pyramid' i will refrain from answering. in looking at the pictures, i think the lead archaeologist on this project is conning everyone. allit is are old fortifications mixed in with natural formations.

[Ciko]

http://www.butterfliesandbunnyrabbits.c ... isoko.html
bosnian pyramid documentary trailer

allit is are old fortifications mixed in with natural formations

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how can you say that this is natural fomations, when archeolgistis, geologist, geophysist say this is not natural formation,

look at the trailer i posted , you can clearly see that stone blocks are placed in layers , blocks on blocks

and bbc are coming today again they will make a documentary about pyramids

[Guest]

We only have these 'archaeologists' and 'geologists' words for it, and I wouldn't bet on them not being in the pay of Osmanagich.
Also, the fact that you can only keep posting the same pictures over and over again speaks volumes, when there should be at least some new 'evidence' uncovered by now! At least one of those photos of the 'plateau' is clearly taken on the hillside, so there's clearly some misinformation being bandied.
I'm also saddened to hear implications of the 'establishment' closing ranks against 'poor' Osmanagich. I think that statement speaks volumes about the chip on it's author's shoulder than anything else.

[Ciko]

least some new 'evidence' uncovered by now!

they showed new evidence to media yesterday, new stone blocks on other side of the hill

everywere they digg they digg up stone blocks







everyday they digg up new stone blocks

[Guest]

No, they don't! Those first two shots of 'blocks' look like compacted gravel from a glacial moraine- or very poor quality WW2 concrete.
And the rest of this 'evidence' STILL doesn't look anything more than natural.
This is the hoax of the century, as far as I'm concerned.

[Ciko]

This is the hoax of the century, as far as I'm concerned.

ok, we will see what egyptian experts say about this

[Minimalist]

This is the hoax of the century, as far as I'm concerned.

ok, we will see what egyptian experts say about this

That would probably be best.

[paul68]

The world's oldest and largest pyramid found in Bosnia? It sounds incredible. The story has swept the media, from the Associated Press and the BBC, from papers and websites in the U.S. to those in India and Australia. Too bad that it is not a credible story at all. In fact, it is impossible. Who is the "archaeologist" who has taken the media for a ride? Why did the media not check the story more carefully? ARCHAEOLOGY will address these questions in depth in our next issue, July/August, but for now let's at least put the lie to the claims emanating from Visoko, the town 20 miles northwest of Sarajevo where the "Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun" is located.






http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/

[Minimalist]

I guess you've never served on a jury, Paul. They have this unreasonable expectation that jurors not make up their minds before the evidence is presented.

[Guest]

we will see what egyptian experts say about this

what if the mayan experts disagree with the egyptian ones? then what will happen?

given the limited scope of the pictures and that these socalled stone blocks are nothing but rocks and compressed dirt, it would be a stretch to say that it is a pyramid. even wikipedia showed pictures of pyramids with real blocks placed in a manner consistant with a pyramid.

[Ciko]

The world's oldest and largest pyramid found in Bosnia? It sounds incredible. The story has swept the media, from the Associated Press and the BBC, from papers and websites in the U.S. to those in India and Australia. Too bad that it is not a credible story at all. In fact, it is impossible. Who is the "archaeologist" who has taken the media for a ride? Why did the media not check the story more carefully? ARCHAEOLOGY will address these questions in depth in our next issue, July/August, but for now let's at least put the lie to the claims emanating from Visoko, the town 20 miles northwest of Sarajevo where the "Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun" is located.

this is a real , real real bullshit

Too bad that it is not a credible story at all.

how do they know that when they never visited this place

In fact, it is impossible.

oh my god, what a good argument that something does not exist

very good

Who is the "archaeologist" who has taken the media for a ride?

he is not archeologist, he is adventurer who studied pyramid in 15 years , but there is a real archelogist who rok there, and it is a woman

Why did the media not check the story more carefully?

what a fuck they have vistid this place , they have taken photos of stone blocks which makes pyramid walls , but what the fuck did they do, nothing just critisize this thing from their offices


as i said , this is really bad article , real bullshit , they have no arguments that this is not a pyramid, oh yes

they said :In fact, it is impossible

hahahah, what a good argument, makes me sick

[paul68]

The only thing bullshit is your emotional pleas for belief and complete failure to criticaly examine any of what your'e supporting.

Construction of such monumental proportions in premodern times required a massive amount of concerted effort. The simple fact that there is no evidence whatsoever of a culture capable of such a feat during the time period cited alone casts major doubt on the claim.

As for your idea that there is an archeaologist present on the site validating the claim....

It makes no difference whatsoever. Bad science is bad science no matter who performs it. The best Physicist in the world can jump up and down all he wants claiming he's finally produced the unified field theory, but until it is examined tested and validated by his peers he has nothing but an empty claim. Doing it for the Janitor who happend to be a science buff for 15 years aint gonna do much to support his claim, excepts perhaps to invite derision and ridicule. And rightly so.


They say the stones are hand tooled, polished?
Ok then, where is the evidence eh? Have the tool marks been found on these stones? Has microscopic examination been perfomed revealing that these stones have been hand tooled? By whom?

He says the site dates between 27-1200 years ago? Ok, who took the material and performed the tests to determine this estimate? What material was tested? Have organic remains been found and radiocarbon tested? By whom?

Where is the evidence of a civilisation and culture capable of performing this astounding feat during the times suggested?


So far, with what IS known, it is easily possible to conclude that this guy is a crank. His earlier work sets precedent against him. Really, aliens and Antlanteans? This is credible?

The region is fairly rich with history, and what is known already strongly suggests that such a claim as this is pure fantasy. Add in that no real support or validation is present in the form of peer reviewal and testing of this cranks work, and it becomes even more fantastical.

So to make it easier.


"how do they know that when they never visited this place"

It is not neccessary to personaly view the site. Cedibility should be present in the form of sound scientific examination and validated evidence, of which there is none. In addition, established history and geological evidence strongly suggests the claim is false. Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable to assign no credibility to it until it is produced.



"oh my god, what a good argument that something does not exist"

You did not address anything of any substance. Explain how it is possible, even plausible and that the proferred arguments against this claim are false, then you might have something.


"he is not archeologist, he is adventurer who studied pyramid in 15 years , but there is a real archelogist who rok there, and it is a woman"

Yes, and as such, she should know better. Proper study and examination requires much more than simple opinion and emotional bias. That she has not enlisted the aide or support of any credible institution to validate any of the work is very telling.


"what a fuck they have vistid this place , they have taken photos of stone blocks which makes pyramid walls , but what the fuck did they do, nothing just critisize this thing from their offices"

NO, the media did not check, or chose not to mention, the highly negative aspects of his background, they did not consult any credible archeological institutions, they did not ask for or seek out any supporting evidence. Again, the articles author is perfectly jusitifed in his observations. The media is following it's usual trend towards sensationalism over substance.



"as i said , this is really bad article , real bullshit , they have no arguments that this is not a pyramid, oh yes

they said :In fact, it is impossible

hahahah, what a good argument, makes me sick"


It's very obvious you have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. As I have pointed out above, they do indeed have STRONG arguments against this claim being valid. You've simply failed to grasp even the most rudimentary aspects of them, much less address them. This is well within keeping of the entire gist of your posts. Your'e entirely uncritical and biased in your belief, and have nothing to base your position on of any substance except blind acceptance and sheer ignorance of even the most basic precepts of skepticism or critical thought. If yours is the kind of support this claim inspires, I dont expect much more to come of this at all, except perhaps for maybe a few fun articles on the folly of trusting the media too far.