Bosnian pyramids, photos

[Guest]

how do they know that when they never visited this place

As opposed to you sitting at your PC, looking at all this "evidence" and taking it at face value.

he is not archeologist, he is adventurer who studied pyramid in 15 years , but there is a real archelogist who rok there, and it is a woman

Exactly! He's NOT an archaeologist! My husband studies horse racing form in the daily papers; doesn't make him a champion jockey though, does it?
You also stated earlier that the 'geologist' who certified the tunnels were man-made was a woman too. SO either you're lying, or they're not very good at their jobs.

what a fuck they have vistid this place , they have taken photos of stone blocks which makes pyramid walls , but what the fuck did they do, nothing just critisize this thing from their offices

No they haven't; they've taken dodgy photos of woodland scenes and passed it off as the 'archaeological find of all time'.

as i said , this is really bad article , real bullshit , they have no arguments that this is not a pyramid, oh yes

Just as you don't have any proof of it being a pyramid!

they said :In fact, it is impossible

And maybe you should listen to people who actually know what they're talking about, for a change.

[Ciko]

NO, the media did not check, or chose not to mention, the highly negative aspects of his background,

/ what, negative aspects

they did not consult any credible archeological institutions, they did not ask for or seek out any supporting evidence.

/ oh, yes of course if you mean bosnian archelogist who are against this excavation, they think this is medival or roman construction, and stechak monuments (this is only in bosnia)

but when archelogist Babich who signed petition against this excavation visited this place this weekend he was convinced that this is not medival or roman construction, and that his is not stechak monuments , and he changed his mind and now he will maybe try help to excavate this, and he was convinced that this excavation was done profesionally



as i said we shall wait and see what egyptian experts say about all this

[Ciko]

Just as you don't have any proof of it being a pyramid!

yes i have, around 20 proves

from satelit images to excavations from last year in october

satelit images show that this is a pyramid whit four side, whit some erosion on two sides,satelit termal images show that there is a construction under the hill , they have

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they said :In fact, it is impossible


And maybe you should listen to people who actually know what they're talking about, for a change.

yes of course, but when i see those archelogist who critisize this excavation to go to visoko and check for them selves what they are doing

and say this is not pyramid because of that and that, because of that and that and then i shall believe them

or shall i believe them, they have not visted this place , and say it is impossible, this is stupid

actually know what they're talking about,

i dont think so, they haven't studied this place , that is why i dont belive them

[Guest]

yes i have, around 20 proves

from satelit images to excavations from last year in october

satelit images show that this is a pyramid whit four side, whit some erosion on two sides,satelit termal images show that there is a construction under the hill , they have

No you haven't. All you have is some dodgy pictures lifted directly from Osmanagich's OWN website. They're not going to be impartial.
All the satellite images show is that there are cool spots in the hillside. Those could be Limestone caverns, not necessarily a 'pyramid'.

yes of course, but when i see those archelogist who critisize this excavation to go to visoko and check for them selves what they are doing

And have YOU ever physically visited this site yet?

I'm still not convinced that this 'discovery' hasn't got more to do with national pride than actual archaeology.

[Ciko]

we shall wait and see what international experts say, you can not convince me i can not convince you ,

[Pippin]

he is not archeologist, he is adventurer who studied pyramid in 15 years , but there is a real archelogist who rok there, and it is a woman

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You also stated earlier that the 'geologist' who certified the tunnels were man-made was a woman too. SO either you're lying, or they're not very good at their jobs.

Maybe it is because I’m not English, that I don’t understand this part. Do you say that a woman can’t be a geologist or that it is impossible that two women work at the same place or that geologists transform to female when they don’t do their jobs well.

That is the 3 different ways I can understand your post, but none of them seem very likely.

Pippin

[Guest]

Well, none of those actually. I was just being sarcastic, since it seemed he was trying to build up his own credibility my inferring the workers were women and therefore completely trustworthy.

[Frank Harrist]

I think this has been posted before, but please read this article to get a better look at Osmanagich. The man's so far out there that Graham Hancock won't even touch him. Anybody noticed how mute Hancock had been on this "monumental discovery"? He's usually the first one to look at outlandish claims. He won't even touch this hot topic. Von Daniken has as much credibilty as Os does. Anybody remember those people who commited suicide to release themselves from their earthly bodies so they could catch the passing spaceship to heaven or whatever? I'm surpirised Os lived through that. He sounds almost just like them. Just read the article; http://www.archaeology.org/online/featu ... index.html

Go to Os's website. He's a kook, Bob. Why are you defending this obviously insane man? I'm not attacking the site, just his looting of it. There may be something there, in fact I'm pretty sure there is, but he's destroying it looking for something which isn't there. He better hurry because according to the Maya, and Os, the world will end in 2012.

[Minimalist]

Schliemann was a kook, too.

You know, Frank, if there is sensitive archaeological material up there, why weren't archaeologists digging before? They had their shot and couldn't be bothered. NOW they're all pissed off about it?

All I'm saying is that the dig is going on and rather than get everyone's nuts in a wringer let's see what they turn up. Those steps that were cut do not look like natural formations to me at all.

[Frank Harrist]

The pic only shows 2 steps and then the dirt is dug away above them to give the impression of a third. Why two steps in the middle of the side and none above or below? I'm saying that they're destroying lots of archaeology because it doesn't fit with what they are looking for. He's too impatient. It ain't goin' nowhere so what's the hurry? Why run slap-dash all around this hill digging holes? Why not have some method to it? Why not let some pros make a plan and dig it like it should be dug? If it's really a pyramid it will still be a great discovery. Os just wants the glory for himself. It's a case of ego trumping science. Bozniana Jones indeed!

[Minimalist]

I'm not there and I have no idea what methods are being used and one can not tell from those pictures.

I suspect if they find a Roman helmet or a Hun dagger they won't throw it out because "it isn't what they are looking for."

[Frank Harrist]

I'm not there and I have no idea what methods are being used and one can not tell from those pictures.

I suspect if they find a Roman helmet or a Hun dagger they won't throw it out because "it isn't what they are looking for."

The question is, will they find it at all? How many buttons and coins and other minutiae of artifacts are they throwing out in those shovels? How much context are they destroying in order to esxpose these damn rocks? I can tell from the pics that they aren't using accepted archaeological procedures. I see no laid out squares in which artifacts or features can be accurately mapped. No indication of a line level to show elevation or even distance below surface. I haven't seen a trowel yet, just shovels. Is any of this stuff being recorded in a scientific manner? I don't disagree with the diggin, just the methods. I realize that the archaeologists in Europe aren't as meticulous as American archaeologists are, but damn!

[Minimalist]

How many buttons and coins and other minutiae of artifacts are they throwing out in those shovels

Who is to say that they have found anything along those lines? If someone wants to sift through the digging, as those Israeli archaeologists have done with the fill brought down from the Temple Mount, let them do so.

I just get a feeling that orthodox archaeology would rather that nothing be found than that something should be found by someone who is not dues-paying member of their club.

[Guest]

I realize that the archaeologists in Europe aren't as meticulous as American archaeologists are, but damn!

Actually we're every bit as pedantic. Can't speak for Eastern Europe though.

If someone wants to sift through the digging... let them do so

That's standard practise for REAL archaeologists, which is why you don't see the bold Mr Osmanagich bothering.

I just get a feeling that orthodox archaeology would rather that nothing be found rather than that something should be found by someone who is not dues-paying member of their club

Sorry but that's as big a piece of conspiracy theory paranoia as I've heard in a long time.

[Frank Harrist]

How many buttons and coins and other minutiae of artifacts are they throwing out in those shovels

Who is to say that they have found anything along those lines? If someone wants to sift through the digging, as those Israeli archaeologists have done with the fill brought down from the Temple Mount, let them do so.

I just get a feeling that orthodox archaeology would rather that nothing be found than that something should be found by someone who is not dues-paying member of their club.

There's no club. No dues to pay. Archaeologists argue among themselves more than they do with "outside" people. There is no comspiracy against new stuff. There is sometimes a division between two groups over something like clovis first, but no conspiricy against the "outsiders". My problem with Os is not that he may have found something new....I hope he has, but with the methods and the "unscientific" way they are approaching it. It doesn't matter to me who discovers a thing as long as it is done properly so it can be referenced later and not questioned because of the methods. Sloppy fieldwork leads to questionable lab work and will always come back to bite you in the ass later on when other questions arise. Not to mention the stuff they just miss by going too fast and not using the proper methods. I'm not arguing with the theory, just with the methods employed. (I really think it's something much later, but I'll wait and see. I just hope they don't completely wreck the site before they give up or find what they seek.)