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http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080709/ ... s=news_rss

I fail to see any substantive argument here for "territoriality".

A more effective argument can be made for "mobility",

Especially with rapidly changing sea levels, and the

Resulting shifts of plants, game, seafood and stratigraphy.


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I get a sense that scholars always want things to fit neatly into their little categories....nomads should move and farmers should stay put and hunter/gatherers move constantly.

I wonder.

Modern pastoralists move within a territory driving their herds from one spot to another depending on the season. I've never been convinced that a HG group would automatically abandon a territory for the great unknown just on a whim. It does make sense that they would move around within a known territory unless and until they were forced to move by another group or had to move because they had exhausted the food supply.

Just MHO.
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john wrote:Especially with rapidly changing sea levels, and the

Resulting shifts of plants, game, seafood and stratigraphy.
Who said it was 'rapid'?
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It's a good thing these people aren't those preparing the evidense for a trial, they could make a case to suit themselves out of just about anything it seems.
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As the saying goes: A district attorney can get an indictment of a ham sandwich.
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But convicting that ham sandwich,
now that takes evidence.
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Rokcet Scientist wrote:
john wrote:Especially with rapidly changing sea levels, and the

Resulting shifts of plants, game, seafood and stratigraphy.
Who said it was 'rapid'?
Rokcet Scientist -

Ever stood beside an incoming tidal bore, rokcet.?

Or tried to handle a boat on one?

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kbs2244 wrote:But convicting that ham sandwich,
now that takes evidence.


I've served on juries. I dispute that statement.
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I was hoping to find a serious discussion of Doggerland
and Mesolithic culture. Did come to the wrong place?
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Part of the problem with the original post is that the article in question was just a "preview."
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Is there any interest now?
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What have you got?

The notion that sea level was much lower during the Ice Age is pretty well accepted around here. It's also fairly obvious that humans were able to cross to Britain via a land bridge of some sort in the remote past.
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I can answer some of this.
There is a museum in the Netherlands that collects artifacts and remains from trawlers and beach deposits, and underwater 'digs' are continuing from the UK.
Southampton university I think has a specialist team on it.

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