The First Boat People

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The First Boat People

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Hi

Thought you all might enjoy this:

http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/cata ... 0521856560

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That should ruffle a few feathers I think.

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That does look interesting, EP.

They write them faster than I can read them, though.
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Australia

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EP, John Moore (Univ. of Florida) recently was asked to use his "EthnoPop" software program to determine the minimum number of people required to successfully colonize Australia circa 50kya. He came up with 15 breeding couples, i.e. 30 people minimum by boat about 180 miles.

The conclusion is that Australia was colonized on purpose. Nobody has figured out yet how those guys could get 15 or more fertile females on a raft to nowhere. Alcohol? Cannabis? :?
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Come on Cog!
Sailors are studs!
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Alcohol? Cannabis?
Clubs?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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Re: Australia

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Cognito wrote:EP, John Moore (Univ. of Florida) recently was asked to use his "EthnoPop" software program to determine the minimum number of people required to successfully colonize Australia circa 50kya. He came up with 15 breeding couples, i.e. 30 people minimum by boat about 180 miles.

The conclusion is that Australia was colonized on purpose. Nobody has figured out yet how those guys could get 15 or more fertile females on a raft to nowhere. Alcohol? Cannabis? :?
Options:
1) Fisherman blown out to sea. Fisherman returns home. Finds reason to leave home later on and return with mate and family.
2) Families live on boats. Family blown out to sea. From South American
mt B and D DNA distribution, this seems most likely.
3) Entire coastal village moves for some reason.

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Colonisation

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Options:
1) Fisherman blown out to sea. Fisherman returns home. Finds reason to leave home later on and return with mate and family.
2) Families live on boats. Family blown out to sea. From South American
mt B and D DNA distribution, this seems most likely.
3) Entire coastal village moves for some reason.

The initial colonizing of Australia required one group of 30 or more individuals landing together. That limits the event to #1 and #3 above. It seems plausable that fisherman were exploring new areas and returned with stories of abundance, thereby encouraging others to make the trip.

EP, thank you for sending me your book - I encourage everyone else on this site to order and read it. I especially enjoyed reading the many native oral stories of the Pleistocene and early Holocene. Excellent.
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Minimalist wrote:
Alcohol? Cannabis?
Clubs?
I confess, they came for me :D
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Welcome back.
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^Thanks...I hadn't really gone anywhere, I just rarely have anything intelligent to say or new to question. I just sit back and read everything.
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Re: Colonisation

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Cognito wrote:
Options:
1) Fisherman blown out to sea. Fisherman returns home. Finds reason to leave home later on and return with mate and family.
2) Families live on boats. Family blown out to sea. From South American
mt B and D DNA distribution, this seems most likely.
3) Entire coastal village moves for some reason.


The initial colonizing of Australia required one group of 30 or more individuals landing together. That limits the event to #2 and #3 above. It seems plausable that fisherman were exploring new areas and returned with stories of abundance, thereby encouraging others to make the trip.

EP, thank you for sending me your book - I encourage everyone else on this site to order and read it. I especially enjoyed reading the many native oral stories of the Pleistocene and early Holocene. Excellent.
Thanks for the endorsement, Cognito - everyone here can buy personally signed copies for the special low price, if they want to, simply by writing to me. And as I've mentioned before, I gifted copies to libraries, so any of you here can read it for free through interlibrary loan if you want to.
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