The Old World is a reference to those parts of Earth known to Europeans before the voyages of Christopher Columbus; it includes Europe, Asia and Africa.
But it would increase the likelyhood of early HE walking to the Andamans.
How?
Time!
If HE was in the area 1,8 million years BP (IF! I haven't seen E.P.'s statement backed up yet) he would have had 1,7 million years (until Toba blew) to reach the Andamans. In 1,7 million years a helluva lot happened tectonically in that area, the tectonically most active area on earth (as Toba, Krakatau, the 2004 tsunami, and last week's Sumatra earthquake and Samoa tsunami convincingly demonstrated). And HE would have had 1,7 million years of 400 feet lower sea levels to walk to the Andamans (and to the rest of the world).
Do you realise how long 1,7 million years is?
At a guess, about 1.7 million years I would say.
Still no sign of your tectonic activity though and no sign that the Andamans were being occupied at that time is there?
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
Digit wrote:
Still no sign of your tectonic activity though
No? Then what were the Toba and Krakatau eruptions, the 2004 tsunami, last week's Sumatra earthquake and the Samoa tsunami?
and no sign that the Andamans were being occupied at that time is there?
If there is, it's under 13 meters of Toba ash.
Until that's been thoroughly checked you cannot claim the Andaman's were not occupied.
Absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absence.
No? Then what were the Toba and Krakatau eruptions, the 2004 tsunami, last week's Sumatra earthquake and the Samoa tsunami?
Tectonic activity I would say, but quite what that has to do with the discussion I'm not sure, anymore than any future activity. Neither did any of these events, nor any they we know of, result in any land bridges popping up and down. Neither do we even know if there was any tectonic activity in the area at the 1. something million years date of yours.
You are still making assumptions to support an idea that you cannot supply one piece of evidence in support of.
Absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absence.
So now we can broaden the discussion to include Atlantis, UFOs etc.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
Again, Kitchen was wrong about that silly mantra of his.
Absence of evidence certainly equals EVIDENCE of absence. It does not equal PROOF of absence.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Very true Min, but it is a basic requrement in any scientific theory that the proposer needs to supply some form of of evidence, mathematecal model etc, to support the theory.
I'm still waiting for RS to offer some.
Currently his supporter's club appears to be rather low on members.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
You used the word "club" on purpose there, didn't you?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Both of whom formed a theory from much observation and created a frame work for testing it.
Darwin even suggesting arguments against his theory.
I'm still waiting to see some support for yours.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
there's just been issued a tsunami warning in the Pacific. An undersea earthquake 400 kilometers northwest of Vanuatu. Must be near the Solomon Islands.
Stand by for more.
Anyway, I rest my case for the tectonic activity on that fault line. I'd say that's been proven conclusively in the past 2 weeks at the cost of thousands of lives and endless misery for most of the 'survivors'...
Also, that activity is worrysome! As if leading up to a really big one...
Doesn't prove that it happened at a particular time in the past though nor that it did what you wish us to accept.
Let us look at what is needed for you to be correct.
First tectonic activity at the correct time.
Tectonic activity that created a whole series of land bridges in just the right spots.
Further activity of some kind that then removed those bridges and also removed any evidence of their existance and further concealed the existance of a certain people in certain places.
Possible? Yes.
Probable? Not very.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
Digit wrote:Doesn't prove that it happened at a particular time in the past though
It proves that it happens ALL the time on that fault line. That's what tectonics is.
nor that it did what you wish us to accept.
Another assumption: I don't 'wish you to accept' anything. Make of it what you want. I like to hear arguments. And weigh them against mine.
And different arguments are much more interesting than like arguments.
Provided they've been thought through.
Tectonic activity has a start time, a life time, and an ending.
Provided they've been thought through.
How true, like Becher with Phlogiston or Huygens and the Aether, and both wrong.
Show me some evidence and I'll accept, otherwise you are requiring an act of blind faith, as in religion.
I'm a doubting Thomas, along with every petrologist and ethnologist I am aware of.
You remain the only one in step! Your clib membership appears currently to be just one!
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
See where the continental plain is in the Gulf of Bengal? It rises and falls over the aeons. Because it's right on top of the Indian Ocean tectonic plate's subduction zone. Along with 400 feet lower sea levels I can easily see HE wade-walking towards the Andamans and on, to Sumatra. While another 'prong' of the HE diaspora followed the Thai/Malay coast. Most of that light blue stuff was more or less dry land along the sea. Excellent HE habitat (with estuaries?). Phuket's forerunner on the then-coast was just as paradisical as today's Phuket is to millions of tourists a year!
BTW, it appears from studies that Antarctica and the North Pole were tropical regions with seawater temperatures of 30 degrees Centigrade (86F)!
But that was supposedly between 50 and 60 million years BP. So not very helpful to our HE.
