The Western Hemisphere. General term for the Americas following their discovery by Europeans, thus setting them in contradistinction to the Old World of Africa, Europe, and Asia.
Mount Greylock hasn't got nearly steep enough slopes for downhill skiing, so dead flora and soil doesn't neccessarily wash off it (besides, it was deforested well before skiing developed as a sport for the masses). So dead flora stays in place and transforms to humus and peat, i.o.w. fertile soil, enabling new flora growth. Etc., etc.
Rokcet Scientist wrote:Reforestation in one century is fucking fast! (Excuse my language).
But then, they weren't deforested downhill skiing slopes either.
come to Nor Cal and see 100 yr old Redwood forests and try telling me reforestation can't happen in 100 years on steep slopes. Clear cutting is a horrible practice, but the Earth can recover quickly in many situations.
dannan14 wrote:come to Nor Cal and see 100 yr old Redwood forests and try telling me reforestation can't happen in 100 years on steep slopes.
I've seen the 1,000 year old redwoods in Sequoia National Park. Does that count?
Clear cutting is a horrible practice, but the Earth can recover quickly in many situations.
Many? Yes. Most? No. The locale then simply adapts to the new situation. Adopts a new 'role'.
Until about 6,500 years ago the Sahara was a green undulating savannah with 7 rivers flowing through it, an abundant flora and fauna, and settled people communities. It then suddenly dried up and out and has been the world's biggest sand box ever since.
Not much recovery there.
Fog may come on little cat feet and sit on silent haunches before moving on, as the poet Carl Sandburg wrote, but in central and Northern California it plops its bulk down on the state’s redwoods and makes itself quite comfortable.
Frequent summer fog along the coast from Monterey to the Oregon border helps nurture the coast, or California, redwood (Sequoia sempervirens), which inhabits a narrow north-south band in that region.
The fog, however, is less frequent than it used to be, according to a study by James A. Johnstone and Todd E. Dawson of the University of California at Berkeley. And that may be stressing the tall trees, they write in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
Certainly RS, but hardly relevant to man made deforestation. If the western seaboard of the USA were to dry out they could also say goodbye the the Redwood forests. A chap on another forum is currently in Zambia on a reforestation scheme, reforestation is being carried out all over the world, and as flat land is too valuable for other purposes it is mostly on slopes.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
Digit wrote:hardly relevant to man made deforestation.
I'm not interested in apportioning blame, Roy. That's not going to solve the inherent problems. What are we going to do? Sue our parents, grandparents, and other ancestors...?
I'm only interested in understanding the mechanics and dynamics of the events, so that we may learn to address them effectively. Even if that means we'll have to recognise and accept that we won't be able to undo the damage, or stop the process(es). That realisation and acceptance may prevent the wasting of an awful lot of money and effort on ultimately ineffective mega plans. Money and effort better directed at adapting to the changing situation, instead of trying in vain to stop it and/or undoing the damage.
My point was that, slowly, the matter is being addressed, here by the Forestry Commision and elswhere by national governments.
As a keen woodworker I have a more than passing interest in this matter.
Yes, at least a few trees. Plus the ground was covered with grass or other vegetation. I certainly hope it wasn't a vineyard!
On the other side of the equation, we don't know how hard it rained or for how long, either.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
On the other side of the equation, we don't know how hard it rained or for how long, either.
I was gonna say that! The last slip here was simply because of heavy rain soaking between the bedrock and the cover above produced a fluidised bed and everything went, trees included!
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
On the other side of the equation, we don't know how hard it rained or for how long, either.
I was gonna say that! The last slip here was simply because of heavy rain soaking between the bedrock and the cover above produced a fluidised bed and everything went, trees included!
I.o.w. the slopes couldn't properly handle the water anymore. The soil's capacity to quickly absorb and slowly release water – the "sponge effect" – had been compromised. Ergo: disaster.
