The Ivory Bangle Lady
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Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
One way that the Romans grew their empire was by identifying local leaders they could work with, (okay, bribe) to serve their interests. I do agree with the underlying theme of the article. Racism is a relatively modern concept.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
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uniface
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Uh . . . no.
At least the Bible and the related literature written off as "pseudographia," "apocrypha" &c. contradict that generalisation.
At least the Bible and the related literature written off as "pseudographia," "apocrypha" &c. contradict that generalisation.
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Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
You know that I don't put much stock in the bible.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin
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uniface
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
A hard point for people to grasp : the category (= "religion") (= unpleasing) you file it under in your head doesn't have any bearing on the factuality (or otherwise) of its content.
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Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
I have no use for the fantastic imaginings of iron age goatherders.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin
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uniface
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Once again, you substitute your mental image of people who were no less intelligent than you are for who they were, condemn your own image as unpleasing, and flush the entire. It's a short-circuit of thought.
Otherwise known as a straw man rebuttal.
Otherwise known as a straw man rebuttal.
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Rokcet Scientist
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2,000 years ago in the middle east there was a beggar/messiah on every street corner, uniface. They were a dime a dozen. There were thousands of them. The messiah business was a cottage industry.uniface wrote:Once again, you substitute your mental image of people who were no less intelligent than you are for who they were, condemn your own image as unpleasing, and flush the entire. It's a short-circuit of thought.
So not much different from today, only we call them 'politicians' now.
The fact that, of all those beggars/messiahs, JC came out floating on top is pure coincidence.
It could just as easily have been Hassan, Simon, or Bartholomew.
So, yes, people were primitive and backward then.
Just like today.
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Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
There you have it uni, judgement handed down!
Roy.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
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uniface wrote:Once again, you substitute your mental image of people who were no less intelligent than you are for who they were, condemn your own image as unpleasing, and flush the entire. It's a short-circuit of thought.
Otherwise known as a straw man rebuttal.
More impressive if archaeology had not trashed it. How many bible tales have to be debunked before you give up on it?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
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Shame you don't seem to know the difference between a judgement and an observation, Roy.Digit wrote:There you have it uni, judgement handed down!
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uniface
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Where dogmas taken as axiomatic are concerned, it can be difficult to tell them apart. 
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Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
I couldn't agree more.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin