Cloth-Clad Clovis

[Frank Harrist]

I use to have a sign on my front door that read "if you are a salesman, a cop, or a preacher, don't bother knocking, just get the hell off my property." I took it down because some of my friends were offended by it and cops liked hassling me because of it. I still got pamphlets from the Jehovah's Witlesses, and still do, but they don't knck.

[Rokcet Scientist]

I use to have a sign on my front door that read "if you are a salesman, a cop, or a preacher, don't bother knocking, just get the hell off my property." I took it down because some of my friends were offended by it and cops liked hassling me because of it. I still got pamphlets from the Jehovah's Witlesses, and still do, but they don't knck.

They've developed a 6th sense for footbreakers...
That's evolution for ya!
Evolution is staring them in the face when they look at your front door, and the hairs in their neck stand on end, and they still don't see it.

[wxsby]

Cloth clad Clovis?

http://www.zazzle.com.au/clovis_wildcat ... 6529366898

[Rokcet Scientist]

Yeah, I've never understood why people like to run around with other people's names on their chests, butts, hats, etc., and even pay – a premium! – for the 'privilege'. That's positively idiotic! It should be the other way around, of course: it's the names/brands/teams that should be paying the wearers for advertising their name/brand/ideology...
It's the world turned upside down.

I wonder what percentage of wearers of that T realise they're rooting for an extinct subspecies.

[Minimalist]

The Empire Strikes Back.....again.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 040910.php

A team of researchers from the University of Arizona has revisited evidence pointing to a cataclysmic event thought by many scientists to have wiped out the North American megafauna – such as mammoths, saber tooth cats, giant ground sloths and Dire wolves – along with the Clovis hunter-gatherer culture some 13,000 years ago. The team obtained their findings following an unusual, multidisciplinary approach and published them in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

"The idea of an extraterrestrial impact driving the Pleistocene extinction event has recently caused a stir in the scientific community," said C. Vance Haynes, a professor emeritus at UA's School of Anthropology and the department of geosciences, who is the study's lead author. "We systematically revisited the evidence for an impact scenario and discovered it just does not hold up."

[wxsby]

I had a chance to visit the Murray Springs Clovis site in Southern Arizona last week. First chance to see actual Clovis tools and points, and a nice hike around the area. The docent mentioned no one really knows what happened to the Clovis folks, but one theory was a comet or asteroid impact caused their demise. I took advantage of that comment to shamelessly plug E.P.'s book and said how good it was, still embarrassed that I haven't had a chance to start it. Several people took notes. She also talked about the similarities to the Solutrian tools...

As opposed to our visit to Anasazi sites, where I noticed juniper with berries everywhere. I asked if they were native and was told, yes, and they were a major source of food to the Pueblo People. I asked how they prepared them and was told they probably made stews from them. I said 'yuk' and explained how the Brits had done much better with a little tonic.

Then we were told nobody knows what happened to the Anasazi. I said I thought they were eaten by the Apaches... I was ignored after that.

Scurvy Athabaskan Nomads!

[Rokcet Scientist]

Funny that the Americas are infested with disappeared-people-stories and disastrous impact events while the old world doesn't seem to have half as many of those.

[E.P. Grondine]

Funny that the Americas are infested with disappeared-people-stories and disastrous impact events while the old world doesn't seem to have half as many of those.

Sorry, RS, but I had a stroke before I could write "Man and Impact in the Ancient Near East" and "Man and Impact in Europe".

[E.P. Grondine]

The Empire Strikes Back.....again.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 040910.php

Does this mean the results obtained by Haynes and his coworkers rule out the possibility of a cosmic event?

"No, it doesn't," Haynes said. "It just doesn't make it very likely."

When anyone who has worked for a long time with this layer point out how bad the UA sampling and processing were, it will not be reported.

I think the Sheriden Cave data will shut the UA folks up real good.

[E.P. Grondine]

The docent mentioned no one really knows what happened to the Clovis folks, but one theory was a comet or asteroid impact caused their demise. I took advantage of that comment to shamelessly plug E.P.'s book and said how good it was, still embarrassed that I haven't had a chance to start it. Several people took notes. She also talked about the similarities to the Solutrian tools...

Thanks for the plug.

[Minimalist]

I think the Sheriden Cave data will shut the UA folks up real good.

I don't think you are giving their intransigence enough credit, E.P.

This group may literally have to die off before the field moves beyond Clovis-First.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Funny that the Americas are infested with disappeared-people-stories and disastrous impact events while the old world doesn't seem to have half as many of those.

Sorry, RS, but I had a stroke before I could write "Man and Impact in the Ancient Near East" and "Man and Impact in Europe".

If you were the only one who would write that down, EP, then the old world was not infested with disappeared-people-stories and disastrous impact events like the Americas were...

[Rokcet Scientist]

This group may literally have to die off before the field moves beyond Clovis-First.

Unless their nuts are cut off by incontrovertibly plain pre-Clovis provenance.

[Minimalist]

They can apparently deny anything.

[Rokcet Scientist]

They can apparently deny anything.

That's not the point. The question is: until what point is that denial relevant? As in: taken seriously. In simple English: at what point do you become a joke! The Club doesn't decide that. The world at large does.