Evolutionary rollercoaster
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Minimalist
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Jawohl.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
He's waving Min!
Roy.
Roy.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Really?
I thought The Wave was when you put both hands up?
I thought The Wave was when you put both hands up?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
No Min, that's when the other guy has a bigger gun than you have!
Roy.
Roy.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Ah! French-style.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
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Rokcet Scientist
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Perhaps, but then that m.o. was copied and improved on your side of the pond!Minimalist wrote:Ah! French-style.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
I'll second that motion! Michelle?...[quote="uniface"]We need a head-bang icon.
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circumspice
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
I disagree... There is always a first "something"...Digit wrote:Sorry Min but you're still not with me. I don't give an sh-one-t as to whether Clovis arrived via Mongolia or the Hudson Ferry!
What I'm saying is that the people either developed it from not having any stone tools at all or that they are the result of development from an earlier culture, just as the European Middle Stone Age is a later development of the Early Stone Age.
No culture exists without an antecedent.
Roy.
For instance, there had to be a "first" ape culture, which descendent hominins built upon through time, culminating in subsequent
cultures, which were built upon by succeeding cultures, ad nauseum.
Ya gotta start somewhere!
"Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test." ~ Robert G. Ingersoll
"Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer, and, without sneering, teach the rest to sneer." ~ Alexander Pope
"Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer, and, without sneering, teach the rest to sneer." ~ Alexander Pope
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uniface
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Clovis-Solturean was the apex of flintknapping technological development.
There is no way it came out of nowhere, and there is no way it was learned in two weeks' time and traveled by word of mouth across the USA.
If at all interested, read Peoples of the Flute by Bob Patten.
There is no way it came out of nowhere, and there is no way it was learned in two weeks' time and traveled by word of mouth across the USA.
If at all interested, read Peoples of the Flute by Bob Patten.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
That's what I said!Ya gotta start somewhere!
Roy.
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Rokcet Scientist
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Maybe so, Roy, but Uni posits that Clovis/Solutrean knapping technology was not the start of a technology, but instead a pinnacle of a technology, which therefore cannot have come out of nowhere but would have been developing for, literally, ages leading up to their getting to be that pinnacle of technology.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Well I wouldn't be prepared to put a time scale to the development RS but I reiterate that nothing so sophisticated can have been achieved overnight.
Roy.
Roy.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Sounds like you guys are saying the same thing.
Why are you arguing?
Why are you arguing?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Beats me!
Roy.
Roy.
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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Perhaps it is just a natural adaptation?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin