Along the coastlines

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but you seem to be stubbornly missing the point.
No Cog, he's ignoring it! :lol:
Anyway he's lost the argument 'cos as Min pointed out flotation devices means water. I don't care if they used water wings, if they used flotation devices then they didn't walk, that in turn means no land bridges.
Guilty as charged Cog!

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Digit wrote:Who says the plates are colliding?
Your friends, the geologists, and every earthquake or volcanic disaster.
As I understand the situation Oz is moving NE and scraping along the Asian plate
Do you have a problem reading compass directions and maps, Roy? The Oz plate, moving NE (on its trek to the north of the Pacific Ocean), bumps into the SE Asian plate at an almost perpendicular angle.
And you conveniently ignore the Indian Ocean plate moving east... 8)
just as California is doing
Since when is California moving North EAST?
which does not form a subduction zone or deep trenches.
I have news for you: in 1906 an earthquake destroyed San Francisco by creating lateral fissures
There is no deep trench where England has collided with Scotland
Correct: they have mountains, the highlands.
or where Africa has hit Europe
Correct: they have mountains, the Alps.
and none where India has hit Asia.
Correct: they have mountains, the Himalayas.
Mountains, yes, quakes, yes, volcanoes, yes, trenches, nil!
Except for the Wallace, Weber, Lydekker, Mariana and dozens and dozens of other trenches of course. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they ain't there... :lol:
No I am not a geo, therefore I listen to those who are and do not claim to be superior in knowledge to them.
Then you're a docile fundie. I'm not a priest, minister, or pope either, and I DO claim to be superior in knowledge to them.
floating, rafting etc is not walking
If a trek of 100,000 kilometers walking involves 200 river/water/strait crossings, 99% of which are less than a couple hundred metres, then that is a walking trip. Not a boating trip.
you can't keep on facing both ways nor ignoring the evidence nor the opinions of geologists.
If Galileo Galileï could then I can too. :lol:
as you can read here the sea floor north of Oz is rising, if you accept what geos state of course.
Yeah, exactly like Surtsey did. Local aberration.
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Your friends, the geologists, and every earthquake or volcanic disaster.
But we have superior knowledge to geos and ignore them don't we? Or is that only went it suits us RS?
Do you have a problem reading compass directions and maps, Roy?
Not that I've noticed, I certainly haven't got lost recently.
The Oz plate, moving NE (on its trek to the north of the Pacific Ocean), bumps into the SE Asian plate at an almost perpendicular angle.
Correct! Which in English vernacular makes it scraping along the edge, OK?
And you conveniently ignore the Indian Ocean plate moving east... 8)
That would be a little difficult, you seem to be he who ignores things.
Since when is California moving North EAST?
It isn't, it's moving north relative to the eastern land mass, a typo on my part, like EP I reserve the right to make mistakes, the difference between us is I know it.
I have news for you: in 1906 an earthquake destroyed San Francisco by creating lateral fissures
Again your generally good English has let you down, in geo terms a lateral fissure is not a trench. Check out Challenger Deep etc.
Except for the Wallace, Weber, Lydekker, Mariana and dozens and dozens of other trenches of course. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they ain't there... :lol:
See above.
Then you're a docile fundie. I'm not a priest, minister, or pope either, and I DO claim to be superior in knowledge to them.
Then I'm a docile fundie, not a fool.

floating, rafting etc is not walking

If a trek of 100,000 kilometers walking involves 200 river/water/strait crossings, 99% of which are less than a couple hundred metres, then that is a walking trip. Not a boating trip.
I don't care if it's a million Kms, rafting etc in English is not walking!
If Galileo Galileï could then I can too. :lol:
The difference betwixt you and he is that he was correct, it was so established by docile fundies.

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Yeah, exactly like Surtsey did. Local aberration.
Sertsey is a volcano, according to those know nothing geos the sea bed to the north of Oz is rising due to the inpacting of plates, you know, like the Himalayas?
But we are all wasting our time of course as you KNOW that you are correct and that everybody else is wrong, just like Uni I fear, and Arch of course.

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Digit wrote:But we are all wasting our time of course
No lo contendere.
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I watched TV programme some years ago, about the Messiah.
In the audience were reps of all the major religions and their various sects, every one on of them knew when the Messiah would return/appear.
Every one of them knew where He would appear.
Every one of them knew that they alone were privy to this information.
Slight snag, they all disagreed with eacah as to where/when this would happen!
Every one of the knew that they were destined for Paradise/Heaven.
Every one of them knew that all the others were condemned to Hellfire.
Every one of them needed no proof as they all knew that they were right.
Sounds familiar doesn't it?

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Digit wrote:I watched TV programme some years ago, about the Messiah.
In the audience were reps of all the major religions and their various sects, every one on of them knew when the Messiah would return/appear.
Every one of them knew where He would appear.
Every one of them knew that they alone were privy to this information.
Slight snag, they all disagreed with eacah as to where/when this would happen!
Every one of the knew that they were destined for Paradise/Heaven.
Every one of them knew that all the others were condemned to Hellfire.
Every one of them needed no proof as they all knew that they were right.
Sounds familiar doesn't it?
You would know: you're eating the geologists version of events like gospel... Even to the extent that you liberally misinterpret their data in ignorant bliss...

Sounds remarkably like cult following, incapable of independent thought.
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What is so valuable about independent thought when it ignores fact, data, logic and common sence?
What makes your independent thought more reasonable than reports by geologists, petrologists, naturalists etc?
Independent thought that is plane stupid is just plane stupid. You condemn Uni about Jewish deaths 'cos he doesn't believe what he's told then you do precisely the same thing. He probably thinks you are as gullible as you think he is. From my position I can see no difference between your two stances.

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Digit wrote:Independent thought that is plane stupid is just plane stupid.
No, Roy, "plane stupid" is just plain stupid. :lol:
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And a stupid idea remains a stupid idea, the fact that it originated as an Independent thought doesn't alter that!

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Digit wrote:And a stupid idea remains a stupid idea, the fact that it originated as an Independent thought doesn't alter that!
I never said it did, Roy.

Funny, you're arguing with yourself now! :lol:
Just like Arch and his socks! :lol:

OK, here's a perspective to chew on: the Gospel of Douglass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-khATBDrBU
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Great debate with lots of useful information.

The HE in Asia map needs to be updated for the find of HE at 1.8 mya in Malaysia. Or was that HH?
:p)

Also, could someone find some images/info on when the passage between the Cordilla and Northern ice sheets was open?

carry on...
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The HE in Asia map needs to be updated for the find of HE at 1.8 mya in Malaysia. Or was that HH?
:p)

Also, could someone find some images/info on when the passage between the Cordilla and Northern ice sheets was open?
Malaysia was HE. I'll PM you some maps of the Cordilleran and Laurentide ice sheets and data on their opening in addition to some nice maps of Beringea and East Asia during the LGM that I'm waiting on.
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Cognito wrote:I'll PM you some maps of the Cordilleran and Laurentide ice sheets and data on their opening in addition to some nice maps of Beringea and East Asia during the LGM that I'm waiting on.
Interesting. I wouldn't mind if you posted 'm here.
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Digit wrote: It isn't, it's moving north relative to the eastern land mass, a typo on my part, like EP I reserve the right to make mistakes, the difference between us is I know it.
Digit, I am acutely aware of my mistakes, particularly since my stroke.
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I've got a wife who points mine out EP! :lol:

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