Africans, the Roman Senate and early settlers of Europe

[PaulMarcW]

http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-60.html


http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-70.html


http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-80.html


http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-90.html


http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-72.html

[Minimalist]

So a central Asian Yurt




or a Navajo Hogan



means that the Mongols and Navajo are "Africans" too?


Really, Paul.

[kbs2244]

“African Celts” has a kind of unusual sound to it.
But, I guess, if you subscribe to the “out of Africa” idea, even “African Vikings” may make sense.

But keep it up Marc, it is fun reading.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Well, I did once post some documentation here that claimed to have identified a 10 MYA great ape from Hungary as a straight ancestor of Lucy, HE, and us. So into Africa...!
So nothing seems impossible where the history of human development is concerned.
Just a tad improbable.

http://archaeologica.boardbot.com/viewt ... ica#p58487

[PaulMarcW]

Here's the next page:


http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-74.html

[Rokcet Scientist]

Paul, you should have those pages redesigned by a real graphic layout designer. The way they 'read' now I need a dose of lithium after only trying, and giving up, to get me down from the ceiling.
Or were you maybe 'on' something as you laid them out?

[PaulMarcW]

R.S. The joking tone you use in your comments aside, it appears there are real presentation issues you found that detract from the web page. You gave up reading the page and showed some exasperation.

I wouldn't have the pages re-designed by a graphic artist as I know none. Besides that, the amount of time required for any page would end up costing an arm and a leg.

But, I am curious. In your view, how would a graphic designer had done the job differently from me?

[Rokcet Scientist]

how would a graphic designer had done the job differently from me?

There are many roads that lead to Rome. But a graphic designer would probably use 3 to 4 times as much space, and very different types, sizes, coloring, leading, interleading, etc. of typography. Mainly less. And so forth, and so on.

For starters: you have decided on JPG (or some other graphical format) as your output format before you started. As a result you have forced yourself to cram it all onto just one page, which is far too much.

The story you're telling doesn't lend itself to be condensed into one (very) tight graphic. It requires a clearly laid out document of more pages. You can make layouts like that in e.g. Word (Windows) or Pages (Mac). When you're completely ready with that layout you can save it for instance as a PDF if you don't want others to be able to change it.

You can't post Word, Pages, or PDF documents here, but you can post a link to them.
Vector-based layouts/documents in Word, Pages, and PDF can be printed at far higher quality than your graphics can. Especially the type.

[uniface]

“African Celts” has a kind of unusual sound to it.

Only without some familiarity with ancient history.

When Rome was ascendant, North Africa had the second-highest population of Romans anywhere -- NA was the breadbasket of the Empire, and it was safely out of the way of much of the increasing political turmoil at the capital.

The much-maligned Vandals, for an example, migrated back to Europe from there.

[Rokcet Scientist]

The much-maligned Vandals, for an example, migrated back to Europe from there.

It was too much apparently even for Vandals...

[Minimalist]

Or there was nothing left to vandalize.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Or there was nothing left to vandalize.

I'll say: Scipio beat 'm to it.

[Minimalist]

The Romans rebuilt it better than it ever was.

The Romans were builders....unlike those Carthaginian merchant bandits.

[Cognito]

Paul, showing similarities between villages and peoples means nothing. Unless you have any genetic evidence to back up your claims, you are simply wasting everyone's time. Comparing an African village to a model of Rome at its inception is simply silly. Claiming that Cels were Phoenicians who were the sons of Ham, and therefore Africans is naive as well as ridiculous. You need a better editor, but if you're doing the editing, I recommend that you fire yourself.

[Rokcet Scientist]

The Romans rebuilt it better than it ever was.

Yeah? I wonder why there's so little of it left in Tunisia then... Many considerable structures of ancient Rome, though sacked repeatedly, are still standing today.

The Romans were builders...unlike those Carthaginian merchant bandits.

The Romans were expansionistic, militaristic fascists (with bombastic architecture to match), the Carthaginians were drug runners, 'traficantes', and general traders.
To law & order Romans Carthago was like Cali/Medellin was in the eighties to law & order Americans.
Carthaginians generally seduced (a.k.a. business) or swindled people out of their money, amassing enormous wealth over one-and-a-half millennia. The Romans generally bludgeoned peoples out of their money (or land, or foodstocks, or daughters, etc., out of their independence and self governance anyway). The Romans took what they wanted with (the threat of) violence: "hand over, or else".

It's a different approach. A different mentality.

One is the artful dodger and the other is the neighborhood bully.