Mediterranean, Appalachian, Pangaea Lunar Impact

[Kalopin]

It has long been an hypothesis of mine that The Mediterranean Sea is the remnants of a Lunar impact that broke apart the supercontinent of Pangaea, is the reason for the planet's iridium layer and was the cause of mass extinction. The Appalachian Mountain Range would be the western rim of the crater, as so much material was burned and pushed into a pile of coal and at this same moment giving rise to the Acadian and Catskill Mountains, pushing down and pinching the plate to form the Mississippi Embayment and raise the Ozark Mountain Range, which are all limestone from beneath ancient seas. The shockwave then flattened the Plains and sent the North American Plate to subdue the Farallon Plate to form the Rocky Mountains and sent massive amounts of water and sediments to form The Grand Canyon. All this occurred in the blink of an eye geologically speaking, in a matter of days!

As I have posted this at Hypography: http://scienceforums.com/topic/27514-me ... ct-crater/ and found very little/if no counter argument, it is my belief that you will find this scenerio to be viable and to answer many questions concerning our planet's formation processes.

Does convection or any other mechanism take into consideration any of these details concerning this topography? :-]

[Ernie L]

Wow...a grand unified theory

[Kalopin]

Wow...a grand unified theory

Yes, thanks, but there really is so much more. This has been placed in "New World" because I would like to make the suggestion that this impact occurred 12,900 years ago. The Younger Dryas, Clovis impact was not just from a comet but The Moon. This will give explaination to the many structures and cities buried beneath land and water. I argue that many if not most of the pyramids and other monolithic structures already were in existence when this impact occurred. This will give explaination to the loss of history and technology.

I feel certain that the more this scenerio is examined, the more logical it appears. Although there had to be many such planetary catastrophies similar prior, this impact will give reason for every detail in archaeology, topography and history. Please study how every single tectonic interaction emanates out from the Mediterranean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_te ... teractions

[Ernie L]

Double wow...
I admire your courage..You have a tough row to hoe.

You might take inspiration from one of the more humble creatures that share our world.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1fa_1383127879

[Kalopin]

Double wow...
I admire your courage..You have a tough row to hoe.

You might take inspiration from one of the more humble creatures that share our world.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1fa_1383127879

Not that stressed about it. Actually I will gladly go much further!
Even though they were highly endangered, there were many species of dinosaur still in existence until this occurred. This impact not only caused an ice age, it slowed the surface and mantle down in relation to the molten layer and faster spinning crystalized inner core of our planet. It is my belief that prior to this incident days were slightly shorter and that this not only lengthened our day it caused gravitational and electromagnetic forces to increase, making it impossible for plants and animals to achieve the sizes prior. When one puts in the study and looks at all the evidence in this context, it becomes more clear that this IS what occurred...

[oh yea- boo! ]

[Ernie L]

[oh yea- boo! ]

Boo..back at ya

[Kalopin]

Where be all ye goblins?

Ed Conrad found human bones in the coal because the coal was formed instantly 12,900 years ago: http://www.edconrad.com/ Coal did not pile up in one area over a long period and why would anyone be expected to believe this?

Sorry I left you all with so many questions last time. As far as the economy- It's not the recession/depression but the oppression/repression and I could not understand why anyone would want to try and use a show that clearly promotes Panspermia like Star Trek, as almost all other sci-fi's do, to defend the outdated belief, students are being graded on, as the 'theory of evolution'!
oh yea, something for E.P.- http://www.creationism.org/books/Biblio ... ophism.htm It's in alphabetical order so "Man and Impact in the America's" is just up from "Kalopins Legacy 1811 A Comet and A Quake", just below Homer's "The Iliad"

[Minimalist]

There do seem to be other opinions.

http://www-g.oca.eu/cerga/gmc/kids/cd/pdfus/Med.pdf

The Mediterranean was formed as a result of movements in both the Earth and
sea beginning back in the second era, around two hundred and twenty million years
ago. Violent upheavals have marked its history every since. Up until then, the
continents had formed a single island known as Pangea. When they floated apart, a
sea was formed. The Greeks later called this sea Tethys, after a goddess born of
the sea and sky and representing the bountiful sea. Tethys was open to the oceans
spread over the planet.

[Kalopin]

There do seem to be other opinions.

http://www-g.oca.eu/cerga/gmc/kids/cd/pdfus/Med.pdf

The Mediterranean was formed as a result of movements in both the Earth and
sea beginning back in the second era, around two hundred and twenty million years
ago. Violent upheavals have marked its history every since. Up until then, the
continents had formed a single island known as Pangea. When they floated apart, a
sea was formed. The Greeks later called this sea Tethys, after a goddess born of
the sea and sky and representing the bountiful sea. Tethys was open to the oceans
spread over the planet.

It appears to agree exactly, just not timewise and not explaining any mechanism for the continents "drifting" apart. After this impact formed a dry crater beneath sea level, many cities were built and instantly flooded when The Strait of Gibraltar was opened by a couple of later impacts: http://tampicoventures.com/Impacts/Euro ... altar.html

Do you believe the Maya built temples beneath water?: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -maze.html

[Minimalist]

just not timewise and not explaining any mechanism for the continents "drifting" apart.

Really. Plate tectonics?


And no, the Maya did not build underwater. And in 50 years if we don't figure out something about global warming people will be wondering why we built Miami underwater.

Sea level has risen.

[Kalopin]

just not timewise and not explaining any mechanism for the continents "drifting" apart.

Really. Plate tectonics?


And no, the Maya did not build underwater. And in 50 years if we don't figure out something about global warming people will be wondering why we built Miami underwater.

Sea level has risen.

"Plate Tectonics" current theory is that convection alone caused Pangaea to slowly break apart. I contend that this was instantaneous.
Sure sea levels can slowly rise and tectonic plates can slowly move, but convection could not have been the main mechanism for Pangaea's break-up, because there are no mantle plumes, hotspots, magma chambers and very little volcanic activity between the divergent boundaries of the American and African and Eurasian Plates. Where are all the volcanoes to split the plates?

Study how The Indian Plate was thrust upward to form The Himalayas. It did not follow Earth's rotation or ocean currents, it went northward: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Plate I ask, What other mechanism could accomplish this? Just as breaking a set of balls on a pool table, the plates were slammed and were sent off the main continent instantly. Antarctica was spun off to the South Pole and Australia spun away to the southeast. This is easily seen on satellite.

If you seperate The Strait of Gibraltar to accomadate for the eastern seaboard of the United States it brings the Saudi Arabian Peninsula back together and puts each land mass in its proper position. The Eurasian Plate is the only plate that is still securely attached to the mantle. This is why The American Plates have pushed against the Eurasian Plate to form "The Pacific Ring of Fire'. Convection can not account for pushing all these plates apart and off of the mantle.

This impact scenario also explains many other anomalies, such as The Marianas Trench, where the plates where ripped from the mantle and The Sahara Desert where most of the finer material from the ejecta blanket settled. Study how this hypothesis will explain every detail in the topography...

Maybe this is the reason this place was named the middle of the Earth, meaning "in the middle of earth", or "the Middle Sea"?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Sea

[Minimalist]

I contend that this was instantaneous.

That's nice. How many of your fellow geologists have you managed to convince?

[uniface]

How many US archaeologists would have admitted the existence of pre-Clovis people in the Western Hemisphere 15 years ago ? Or acknowledged that a thermonuclear event likely precipitated the end of the ice age -- even after Firestone and Topping laid the evidence out on the table for them ?

Appealing to "scholarly consensus" as if it were tantamount to validation is, IMHO, moronic.

The only thing the consensus tells you is what the consensus is.

[Kalopin]

How many US archaeologists would have admitted the existence of pre-Clovis people in the Western Hemisphere 15 years ago ? Or acknowledged that a thermonuclear event likely precipitated the end of the ice age -- even after Firestone and Topping laid the evidence out on the table for them ?

Appealing to "scholarly consensus" as if it were tantamount to validation is, IMHO, moronic.

The only thing the consensus tells you is what the consensus is.

Thank you kind sir, for your voice of reason. I bet there are others that feel investigation should 'trump' the belief system? And, even if you may disagree with a hypothesis, all the avenues must be explored. As I have said many times- As an individual you are entitled to have your beliefs, as a scientist you are obligated to examine the percentage of possibility! Sincerely

[Kalopin]

I contend that this was instantaneous.

That's nice. How many of your fellow geologists have you managed to convince?

All should show empathy, as well as sympathy for ignorance.
Because so many want to believe and promote the sataus quo, so many will have to admit they are wrong. How will each individual feel once they find this evidence has been ignored. This is another impact, just as the Mississippi embayment, that should have easily been noticed, but the way false information, supposedly in the form of education, is dictated to students, they are left with no choice but to learn what is being taught or to fail. There has been very little acceptance for any new hypotheses. Do you know why?