Bosnian pyramids, Part II, no photos please!

[zagor]

if you get that job selling icecream [i'm hoping for you], you're going to have to serve anyone who wants some.

If you try maybe get that job "to serve anyone who wants some" because
stellarchaser is over qualified for that position. He is better for the archeologists position.

i imagine your product will be sheep shite molded and scultped to look like icecream so you will need an expert.

I will call you eratoh as an expert for that , looks you are good with that staff.

[zagor]

.... and insisted he was still in America?

Who insisted?

[eratoh]

If you try maybe get that job "to serve anyone who wants some" because
stellarchaser is over qualified for that position. He is better for the archeologists position.

i imagine your product will be sheep shite molded and scultped to look like icecream so you will need an expert.

I will call you eratoh as an expert for that , looks you are good with that staff.

send me a ticket and i'm there. i can transform shite into sugar. i have my own hat!

[DougWeller]

"Not any evidence at all has been found" to support the claim the site would be an archaeological site, he said.

and further:

"I've seen the site, in my opinion it is entirely natural," he told reporters in Sarajevo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060610/ap_ ... ontroversy

Which University finished Mr. Harding I wonder? God save us all from such "archeologists".

I wouldn't give him to sell ice cream near the site, let alone to relay on his "expertise". Just wait, it'll go down in history books.

Egyptian archeologist said this wall could be wall of the tomb. And it is clearly man made, which Visocica Hill makes an archeological site. Fine, one down, let's see how many to go.

http://www.visoko.co.ba/?go=foto

Wrong hill. She said it could be a tomb/grave, but she wasn't on Visoco I think. I could be wrong, does it say Visoko?

In any case, I thought that was found after Harding's visit? You have evidence it was found before? You seem to be making accusations with no evidence.

[stellarchaser]

Here's Tony Harding's profile-
www.sogaer.ex.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/harding.shtml

This Mr. Harding looks like decent fellow. I really don't know why he's done what he's done. And especially the way he's done it. Pitty. And it was promissing carreer.

[Guest]

This Mr. Harding looks like decent fellow. I really don't know why he's done what he's done

Did what- dare to say there isn't a pyramid in Bosnia? If that's the new heresy, I think you'll find it's pretty widespread.

[stellarchaser]

"Not any evidence at all has been found" to support the claim the site would be an archaeological site, he said.

and further:

"I've seen the site, in my opinion it is entirely natural," he told reporters in Sarajevo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060610/ap_ ... ontroversy

Which University finished Mr. Harding I wonder? God save us all from such "archeologists".

I wouldn't give him to sell ice cream near the site, let alone to relay on his "expertise". Just wait, it'll go down in history books.

Egyptian archeologist said this wall could be wall of the tomb. And it is clearly man made, which Visocica Hill makes an archeological site. Fine, one down, let's see how many to go.

http://www.visoko.co.ba/?go=foto

Wrong hill. She said it could be a tomb/grave, but she wasn't on Visoco I think. I could be wrong, does it say Visoko?

In any case, I thought that was found after Harding's visit? You have evidence it was found before? You seem to be making accusations with no evidence.

Harding's gave some statements about Visocica without:

a) speaking with archeologist
b) speaking with geologistc
c) seeing whole site

He presented his opinion to a press based on what? And his opinion turned to be wrong. When he was there, Mr. Barakat would show him man made stones. It was Harding who said lot of things without any evidence, and that's he's fault.

[stellarchaser]

This Mr. Harding looks like decent fellow. I really don't know why he's done what he's done

Did what- dare to say there isn't a pyramid in Bosnia? If that's the new heresy, I think you'll find it's pretty widespread.

If you read his statements carefuly, you'll notice that he said that Visocica is all natural and that Visocica wasn't archeological site. And he was wrong.

[alrom]

Harding's gave some statements about Visocica without:

a) speaking with archeologist
b) speaking with geologistc
c) seeing whole site

He presented his opinion to a press based on what? And his opinion turned to be wrong. When he was there, Mr. Barakat would show him man made stones. It was Harding who said lot of things without any evidence, and that's he's fault.

Don't you think that maybe you don't need days and days of work to see if a stone is manmade or not?

I don't know what did he do there, I'd like to read a full description of his visit but I can understand that if he:

1) Went to Visoko and saw part of the findings being claimed as man-made

2) Saw that they were obviously natural

That might have been enough for at least cast a doubt on the credibility of the project.

Dr. Harding stated that he would visit the hill by himself because he didn't want to be taken to a tour by guys there, and he wanted to see things by himself.

And anyway, was he really there just 15 minutes as everybody is claiming? who said that? who saw him? And I understood that he just claimed that there wasn't a pyramid, he wasn't talking about possible medieval or roman structures. We already knew that there might be stuff coming from the romans over there. Your quotes are part quotes from Dr. Harding and part from the AP writer, they are way out of context.

[stellarchaser]

Harding's gave some statements about Visocica without:

a) speaking with archeologist
b) speaking with geologistc
c) seeing whole site

He presented his opinion to a press based on what? And his opinion turned to be wrong. When he was there, Mr. Barakat would show him man made stones. It was Harding who said lot of things without any evidence, and that's he's fault.

Don't you think that maybe you don't need days and days of work to see if a stone is manmade or not?

I don't know what did he do there, I'd like to read a full description of his visit but I can understand that if he:

1) Went to Visoko and saw part of the findings being claimed as man-made

2) Saw that they were obviously natural

That might have been enough for at least cast a doubt on the credibility of the project.

Dr. Harding stated that he would visit the hill by himself because he didn't want to be taken to a tour by guys there, and he wanted to see things by himself.

And anyway, was he really there just 15 minutes as everybody is claiming? who said that? who saw him? And I understood that he just claimed that there wasn't a pyramid, he wasn't talking about possible medieval or roman structures. We already knew that there might be stuff coming from the romans over there. Your quotes are part quotes from Dr. Harding and part from the AP writer, they are way out of context.

I have posted link to whole news story, so please read it. According to this news story, Mr. Harding denied that Visocica Hill is archeological site, for which you claim now that you all knew that Visocica is an archeological site. If you doubt that Associeted Press "spinned" Harding's words, it is easy to obtain tape from press conference in Sarajevo and to see what Mr. Harding really said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060610/ap_ ... ontroversy

[FreeThinker]

It is interesting to note that all the debate is centered around press releases and information from Osmanagic's website. Real archaeology is not a question of self promotion, public clamor, nor is it decided by the press. Where are the peer reviewable reports from the field? So far I have seen nothing remotely like that at all.

[bp]

Latest discovery proves pyramid theory



A press conference held earlier today (Sunday) at the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon puts “beyond doubt” the existence of a pyramid at the site, says the Archeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun (APBPS).

The Pljesevica Hill was previously named the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon by the APBPS Foundation. Experts from the Foundation have now revealed the discovery of a vertical wall that forms part of the Pyramid of The Moon.

Lamia el-Hadidi (Conservation Specialist, Egypt) assumes that the wall forms part of a tomb belonging to the pyramid. She pointed out that the wall is clearly manmade, comprising blocks that have been cut by man, refined and used to build this vertical wall.

Prof.Dr.Ric.Geol. Dario Andretta, chairman of the Humanitarian University for the Multidisciplinary International Culture (Rome), announced that this evidence puts beyond doubt the existence of a true pyramid at this site.

Experts from APBPS expect to have further announcements about the nature of the wall that has been discovered in the next two to three days. Excavations will now continue to take place to the left, right and above the wall. The team has also discovered steps which they say probably lead into the tomb.

Andretta has also announced that more experts from across Italy will be coming to join Bosnians on the site to be part of largest current international archeological project.

It is said that the discovery of the entrance at the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon proves beyond doubt that this is a true pyramid.



www.bosnianpyramid.com

[alrom]

Oops didn't want to post this sorry

[stellarchaser]

It is interesting to note that all the debate is centered around press releases and information from Osmanagic's website. Real archaeology is not a question of self promotion, public clamor, nor is it decided by the press. Where are the peer reviewable reports from the field? So far I have seen nothing remotely like that at all.

I agree with you completely, but you must admit that simmilar "propaganda" is coming from opposing side too. Unfortunatelly, in whole this thing I'm affraid, archeology is at last place, and the guilt for that lies on both sides.

As for reports, as scientist you know that they cannot be presented at someone's wish. Alleged mortar found between stone blocks have been sent for laboratory testing, same as skeleton remains that have been found there. Monolith inscriptions are also under research. But I think I read somewhere that mr. Barakat will present his findings before the end of this month.

[alrom]

I have posted link to whole news story, so please read it. According to this news story, Mr. Harding denied that Visocica Hill is archeological site, for which you claim now that you all knew that Visocica is an archeological site. If you doubt that Associeted Press "spinned" Harding's words, it is easy to obtain tape from press conference in Sarajevo and to see what Mr. Harding really said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060610/ap_ ... ontroversy

As I read that press note, he was talking about the claims of a pyramid under the hill.

"Not any evidence at all has been found" to support the claim the site would be an archaeological site, he said

The quotes on the first part means that they are words from Dr. Harding, the rest is written by the guy from AP, so he may have said something different. I'm not saying that AP is lying, but that maybe they have tried to simplifly Dr. Harding's words. We don't know how did he end that phrase so we can't take any conclusion on that.

Could you please obtain that tape and record it to an mp3 file or something like that? I've been trying to find more information on what Dr. Harding said about what he saw but I can only find that AP note.