so youre saying that in the act of clearing the hill for a fortress [a process that necessitated clearing all cover to the base at least] they ended up with a pyramid shaped hill then that makes everyting all right all the way around? Oz is not a crook and que sera sera
How in the world do you jump to that statement from what I said? Given all the miscommunication that has been going on here I was trying to be very careful with my words.
Eratoh I didn't say anything like that. I thought we were having a discussion. How did Oz get into it? When did I say that I think the hill had to be cleared?
For a very short bit there - it was nice talking to you.
you won't define purposefully so i had to. you wouldn't impose any timeframe so i had to. all you said was some lame comment about if its shaped like a pyramid by the hand of man for any purpose at any time then everyone has to shut up. you must take Oz and his claims into account here as thats what we're talking about. if it was just a pyramid shaped hill that got that way in the middle ages then this would not exist.
You type and write as if you are a member of Americas X generation. If I'm correct about that then let me say that I have three sons in their 30s.
You have said that I didn't mention certain things - so you had to. Eratoh NOTHING requires you to put words in other peoples mouths. It's the quickest and easiest way to simply be wrong.
I'm only talking about the archaeology that has been reported to us by an archaeologist. Nothing more.
If Oz is a crook, that is an issue for the Bosnian people. You'll never find me quoting him.
If you have noticed me getting my back up on this thread, it is because holier-than-thou people are always trying to tell others what they can and cannot do. You and others have been shedding crocodile tears over the bona fide archaeology that is on the hill. Before this started you and others had no clue that it existed.
I don't know Barakat. He is an archaeologist from Egypt - or geologist. I imagine that he can oversee an excavation. Do you know the people in charge of thousands of excavations going on in the world right now? Of course you don't.
Imagine for a moment that the UNESCO team or some other body could order this excavation to be stopped. I believe that Oz would just write another book and make millions of dollars, and convince millions of people that there is a very ancient step pyramid built from the ground up by the ancient Illyrians. They would believe that there is a vast scientific conspiracy to keep the truth from the world. Stop and think!!
And please stop thinking that that you HAVE to put words in peoples mouth.
you talked for the world. failed to define any parameters.
i'm part of the world you were talking for and i wanted to know what you were saying for me. i never speak in such vague terms so i felt i had the right to inject into your statement made on my behalf some things that would make it ok for you to speak for me. since you can't don't include me in your world.
you talked for the world. failed to define any parameters.
Hey, eratoh. Why are you becoming so angry?
If you don't know the meaning of words, you shoould go to the dictionary.
It is completely stupid to say that Beagle was speaking for the world.
What is up with you?
Try being poite.
Lots of little houses there. Do you know what are they Ciko? Farmers' huts or something like that?
What I meant by talking about those little houses is that it is quite common to find buildings around towns. And probably in roman and medieval times it happened like that too. I know that in the middle ages there were lots of houses off-walls, and I think in roman times people tended to settle around roman forts.
So it is possible that if you dig around Visocica Hill you will find roman and medieval buildings.
Beagle wrote:Imagine for a moment that the UNESCO team or some other body could order this excavation to be stopped. I believe that Oz would just write another book and make millions of dollars, and convince millions of people that there is a very ancient step pyramid built from the ground up by the ancient Illyrians. They would believe that there is a vast scientific conspiracy to keep the truth from the world. Stop and think!!
Yeah people will believe whatever it makes them feel better, be it true or false. Facts won't make them change their mind.
Do you remember the "Face on Mars"? it was a hill that was photographed by a Viking probe, that looked like a face. People thought it was a proof that in the past there was life on Mars.
25 years later, the Mars Global Surveyor took a picture of that same hill but with ten times more resolution, and it showed that it was a natural hill that didn't look at all like a face. On 2001 MGS took another picture and it looked even less like a face.
beagle says
As things look to me right now, there might be a natural hill there that has been re-fashioned by humans at some time into a pyramid shape. If that is the case, I and most of the world will call it a pyramid. [i guess he says right there he's speaking for the world]
then i asked him to explain re-fashioned because that has the potential for supporting any argument if not defined and since he was admittedly speaking for me i wanted to be clear
then i asked him what he meant by purposeful because again that has the potential for supporting any argument if not defined and since he was admittedly speaking for me i wanted to be clear
he said "some time" so i used an example i felt like to see if his argument was still true and is it?
this is becoming more like a soap opera than a commentary on a archaeological dig.
"as the pyramid turns"
so far i see nothing of value coming from this discussion since there is so little new information, especially any objective news releases. i find it interesting that once a block or a 'wall' has been unearthed it is immediately asessed to being part of a pyramid and not investigated further.
considering there are no supporting documents for these conclusions one must therefore think that the whole venture is false and that previous construction is being manipulated to con those who really want to believe something pecial is there.
eratoh we have an expression here for the way you are trying yo make points,we call it trying to milk an ant wearing boxing gloves.Do you want me to define that ?
Let us discuss not definitions of pyamids but let us focus on the claims made by Osmanagic first of all,see what has become of it in this intermediate stage of excavations,eventually new claims made and the erguments pro and contra ,feel even free to make a prognosis .
Thanks to all trying to keep this debate a tribute to science .
maybe you could explain that for me. i'm not sure what the ant is and who is wearing the boxing gloves and who it is that thinks they can get milk from an ant in the first place
eratoh wrote:maybe you could explain that for me. i'm not sure what the ant is and who is wearing the boxing gloves and who it is that thinks they can get milk from an ant in the first place
You just like stirring up shit, don't you? I know you have some smartass comeback for that which will make you feel superior, but I don't care. You contribute nothing to the conversation. You simply nitpick others' words to give yourself some kind of mental orgasm. Feel free to mentally masturbate yourself to death and use my words to do so. Your comments mean nothing.
i actually didn't understand the comment but since your simplicity necessitates the lowest estimation of ones character and words, enjoy the bottom of my shoe.
poor little beagle, poor silly of. beagle got to masturabate for a minute by manipulating pauls answer to make a stupid and undefensible point and you all got manipulated right along. feeling smart?
and do notice who first attacked the arguer and not the argument.
eratoh wrote:i actually didn't understand the comment but since your simplicity necessitates the lowest estimation of ones character and words, enjoy the bottom of my shoe.
poor little beagle, poor silly of. beagle got to masturabate for a minute by manipulating pauls answer to make a stupid and undefensible point and you all got manipulated right along. feeling smart?
and do notice who first attacked the arguer and not the argument.
eratoh wrote:i actually didn't understand the comment but since your simplicity necessitates the lowest estimation of ones character and words, enjoy the bottom of my shoe.
poor little beagle, poor silly of. beagle got to masturabate for a minute by manipulating pauls answer to make a stupid and undefensible point and you all got manipulated right along. feeling smart?
and do notice who first attacked the arguer and not the argument.
I rest my case.
oh ah. from a point of strength? no a voice from the bottom of my shoe
its pretty easy to tell who has any real stake in the world of archaeology and who just likes to be the man
eratoh wrote:i actually didn't understand the comment but since your simplicity necessitates the lowest estimation of ones character and words, enjoy the bottom of my shoe.
poor little beagle, poor silly of. beagle got to masturabate for a minute by manipulating pauls answer to make a stupid and undefensible point and you all got manipulated right along. feeling smart?
and do notice who first attacked the arguer and not the argument.
I rest my case.
oh ah. from a point of strength? no a voice from the bottom of my shoe
its pretty easy to tell who has any real stake in the world of archaeology and who just likes to be the man
Looks that you really suffering from a shit infliction as you said. I think is not sufficient to mention here Yamemaru quote from previous page
"did your parents take your toys away while u where little? so far u have been claiming u can turn shit into sugar and calling people shit heads for no reason at all."
The best is to not respond to your post-just skip and ignore your posts on this tread.
