Bosnian pyramids, Part II, no photos please!

[Frank Harrist]

I reckon we'll just have to wait and see what's there. I don't have the means or the clout to stop the dig even if I wanted to. Like I said before, it's your country so you do what you want. Ain't no skin off my back. All I've ever wanted to do was help. I don't want to see the Bosnian people lose any of their history, but if it ain't a concern for ya'll then it ain't one for me.

Dear Frank,

we're lost out history long time ago thanks to foreigners who were occupying us for centuries. We had our faith (protestantism) which was destroyed by Rome, Constantinople and finnaly Istambul. They destroyed our faith by swords, by cutting tongues of so called "heretics".

They killed our people, they burned our wooden and stone churches, they burned our books and they forbid our script. For more than 500 years, Rome, Constantinople and Istambul did everytning in their power to destroy our past. Our best kings and statesmen from the past are for us now just a fogy myth, without any material artefacts. because no book and no stone survived. What we are doing at the moment, is rediscovering our past again.

I wish you luck with that. I know ya'll have had it rough there. It's always been a hotly contested area. I'm hoping things are better for you now. If this thing with that "pyramid" helps the local economy then it's a good thing, at least in the short term. I hope it turns out to be the same in the long term.

[EnOZ]

I was serious about Os's credibilty. Atlantis and Mayans from outer space? Come on!

Of course, I'm not saying that he's right there, but he's not scientist, so he can have his dreams, as any other free person. And because he's not scientist, he has nothing with the excavations; he's working in the Foundation (for free) to secure that excavations will continue as long it takes.

And he's doing it successfully.

You may think he's a mad man with wild dreams, but he's making his dreams come true.

And as I said, when all finishes, we'll see who lied what and when. I would rather carry your funny hats, rather than be nasty lier and cheater, who is misusing his position.

stellarchaser,

Stop defending him (Osmanagic). We know that you are working for him, but….He might be a dreamer; however we don’t have to dream his dreams (nightmares). I’ve followed this topic with interest for some time. When I first read that pyramids had been discovered in Bosnia I was very excited because I was born and lived there. After reading his books I found a lot of Semir’s ideas and theories very weird and not scientifically proved. I don’t know how you can defend him….He’s behind this project and he should be replaced with someone more competent. And they should start digging for something else, not pyramids and do it systematically. 

[Yamemaru]

so has this been confirmed anything yet?

[Frank Harrist]

so has this been confirmed anything yet?

Depends on who you ask.

[stellarchaser]

I was serious about Os's credibilty. Atlantis and Mayans from outer space? Come on!

Of course, I'm not saying that he's right there, but he's not scientist, so he can have his dreams, as any other free person. And because he's not scientist, he has nothing with the excavations; he's working in the Foundation (for free) to secure that excavations will continue as long it takes.

And he's doing it successfully.

You may think he's a mad man with wild dreams, but he's making his dreams come true.

And as I said, when all finishes, we'll see who lied what and when. I would rather carry your funny hats, rather than be nasty lier and cheater, who is misusing his position.

stellarchaser,

Stop defending him (Osmanagic). We know that you are working for him, but….He might be a dreamer; however we don’t have to dream his dreams (nightmares). I’ve followed this topic with interest for some time. When I first read that pyramids had been discovered in Bosnia I was very excited because I was born and lived there. After reading his books I found a lot of Semir’s ideas and theories very weird and not scientifically proved. I don’t know how you can defend him….He’s behind this project and he should be replaced with someone more competent. And they should start digging for something else, not pyramids and do it systematically. 

Stop defending him (Osmanagic).

I will defend whoever I want.


We know that you are working for him,

Don't lie. I don't work for Osmanagich, and I never met Osmanagich. I don't work for Foundation, and never worked. So stop spreading lies on this thread. If it's your way to have a disscussion, it's pitiful.

And by the way, who is "we"? Unless you consider yourself as Her Majesty The Queen, I pressume there's whole bunch of you that "know". So in this case, previous part address to all of you.

I'm a journalist, who accidentaly loves archeology. And I'm collecting every single word that has ever been said from all sides. I'm planning to make a documentary and to write a book about whole this affair, when whole thing is over one day. And I allready have a publisher, and I plan to make few bobs out of it.

however we don’t have to dream his dreams (nightmares).

By all means. Who's asking that? You're free person, mind your own bussiness. If you have anything smarter to do in your life, just don't do it. Do what ever you want.

After reading his books I found a lot of Semir’s ideas and theories very weird and not scientifically proved.

You're not the only one. I myself consider some of his theories weird.
As for scientifically "proved" things, you learned in school many such things. Evolution for example. Signed by real "scientists". So it's not a novelty.

I don’t know how you can defend him….

I always defend nice people.


He’s behind this project and he should be replaced with someone more competent

Address to Bosnian goverment. They are decision makers. But as far I know, they're happy with him.

And they should start digging for something else, not pyramids and do it systematically.

Again, you must address Bosnian goverment regarding this. I can't help you in this matter.

[alrom]

After reading his books I found a lot of Semir’s ideas and theories very weird and not scientifically proved.

You're not the only one. I myself consider some of his theories weird.
As for scientifically "proved" things, you learned in school many such things. Evolution for example. Signed by real "scientists". So it's not a novelty.

Are you comparing Atlantis theories with evolution??????

[stellarchaser]

Are you comparing Atlantis theories with evolution??????

Of course, one rubish with another rubbish.

Ask any biologist, and he'll tell you that transformation from one specie to another specie is immpossible. Just mutations within one specie.

Not to mention absence of one single proof for evolution. Just a bag of well packed lies.

You believe in evolution? Oh my God! you believe in fish that goes on the land and learns how to breathe?

Alrom, I won't stop laughing whole day You made my day today

[alrom]

After reading his books I found a lot of Semir’s ideas and theories very weird and not scientifically proved.

You're not the only one. I myself consider some of his theories weird.
As for scientifically "proved" things, you learned in school many such things. Evolution for example. Signed by real "scientists". So it's not a novelty.

Are you comparing Atlantis theories with evolution??????

Of course, one rubish with another rubbish.

Atlantis was at least mentioned in some written records.

Ask any biologist, and he will tell you that there can't be transformation from one specie to another. Just a mutations within one specie. Not to mention absence of one single proof of evolution. Just a pack of well packed lies.

Don't tell me you believe in this rubish Oh my God! In fish that goes on land and learns how to breath?

Wow!

Stellarchaser you're being so ignorant. Arguing that evolution doesn't exist is like arguing that the earth is flat, that the sun revolves around the earth or that fairies exist. This negation of evolution can only come from deep ignorance and misunderstanding of what evolution is.

Anyway my girlfriend is working on her PhD in biotechnology, I'll ask her but I'm expecting good laughs as an answer

[stellarchaser]

Are you comparing Atlantis theories with evolution??????

Of course, one rubish with another rubbish.

Atlantis was at least mentioned in some written records.

Ask any biologist, and he will tell you that there can't be transformation from one specie to another. Just a mutations within one specie. Not to mention absence of one single proof of evolution. Just a pack of well packed lies.

Don't tell me you believe in this rubish Oh my God! In fish that goes on land and learns how to breath?

Wow!

Stellarchaser you're being so ignorant. Arguing that evolution doesn't exist is like arguing that the earth is flat, that the sun revolves around the earth or that fairies exist. This negation of evolution can only come from deep ignorance and misunderstanding of what evolution is.

Anyway my girlfriend is working on her PhD in biotechnology, I'll ask her but I'm expecting good laughs as an answer

I bet she has few lies in her pocket. But I know that she'll tell me that fish came to dry land and learned how to breathe. In peaceful and calm environment that lasted billions of years. But that is just a phantasy. And I don't waste my time on somebody else's phantasies. Every single fossil that has been found on this planet is proof of just one single thing - that the animal died under catastrophic circumstancies. Evolution was created based on fossils, but fossils are best proof against evolution.

Just tell her to use her brain a bit. Books are wonderful things, but sometimes they are full of lies.

[Frank Harrist]

Lets try to stay on track here, guys. The evolution/intelligent design debate is on another thread.

[stellarchaser]

Lets try to stay on track here, guys. The evolution/intelligent design debate is on another thread.

I agree, it doesn't belong here and it's just a waste of time. Just to add (and thet'll be it from me regarding this) that I never mentioned inteligent design. I just said that evolution is a lie.

[alrom]

Lets try to stay on track here, guys. The evolution/intelligent design debate is on another thread.

Hahahaha yeah sorry Frank, I was just thinking that I didn't want to start another thread on evolution, there's too many of them on the internet Sorry!

[zagor]

I agree, this doesn't belong here




This one is more appropriate for this thread

[Minimalist]

[FreeThinker]

Two quick points:

1) It is very rude to call people liars in a debate. This has been done many times by one person in this thread. You know who you are. Please stop it. It adds nothing to the debate.

2) Michelle asked us not to post pictures in this thread. It is rude to ignore her request on this point. She has been kind enough to spend her time for the benifit of us all here. Please, let us respect her request on that point.

Thanks.