It is easy to practise the archaeology of office

[FaraonVisoko]

FRENCH

Bonjour à tous


Je suis étonne à la lecture de vos débats stériles sur ce forum. La plupart d’entre vous n’est même pas capable de situer la Bosnie sur une carte géographique. C’est facile de pratiquer l’archéologie de bureau dans des bureaux climatisés (comme le mien d’ailleurs) sans participer aux fouilles sur le chantier « des pyramides bosniaques ». L’important à Visoko, c’est qu’il y a quelque chose, et ce n’est pas qu’un tas de pierre et de terre.

Qu’est-ce que vous pensez de ça ?
Si je fait mon métier comme vous tous (majorité des intervenants sur thème des pyramides bosniaques) présents ici ? Paye par le contribuable, et avec unique mérite la découverte de Semir Osmanagic, un passionnée).
Que vous étés jaloux d’Osmanagic et sa « découverte » ,que vous étés jaloux de sa capacité médiatique et sympathique.Il est sur terrain et il est tout a fait capable de assumer et d digérer un échec.


Lui il pratique pas la archeologie de bureaux comme majorité ici présents
Lui il pratique pas archeologie a distance,telecommande –ca marche pas

On va vous prendre au sérieux le jour quand on vous voit en Bosnie, sur le chantier et la on va vous écouter comme avec plaisir, ou laissez nous tranquilles, jouer chez nous avec notre terre et nos tas de pierre.

Bosniaque


ENGLISH by GOOGLE

Hello with all ,
I am astonish with the reading by your sterile debates on this forum.
The majority among you are not even able to locate Bosnia on a geographical chart.

It is easy to practise the archaeology of office in offices air-conditioned (like mine besides) without taking part in the excavations on the building site “of the Bosnian pyramids”. The important thing in Visoko, it is that there is something, and it is not only one ground and stone heap.


If I makes my trade like you here all (majority of the speakers on topic of the Bosnian pyramids) present? Pay by the taxpayer, and with single merit the discovery of Semir Osmanagic, one impassioned). That you summers jealous of Osmanagic and its “discovery”, that you summers jealous of his media capacity and sympathetic nerve. It is on ground and it is completely able to assume and D to digest a failure. He it does not practise the archaeology of offices like majority here present He it does not practise remote archaeology, remote control - Ca does not go One will take to you at serious the day when one sees you in Bosnia, on the building site and it one will listen to you like with pleasure, or leave us quiet, will play on our premises with our ground and our heaps of stone.

link photos:

What do you think of that?

http://piramide.jahu.net/images/zmija.jpg
http://piramide.jahu.net/images/ptica.jpg

Bosnian

[Minimalist]

I think google probably needs to work on their translation services.

[tj]

The majority among you are not even able to locate Bosnia on a geographical chart.

Could I get a second helping of that tasty stereotyping you're serving up?

[Beagle]

I second the Google translation thought.

But if I am getting this a little - he doesn't think much of us 'tards does he?

[FaraonVisoko]

I second the Google translation thought.

But if I am getting this a little - he doesn't think much of us 'tards does he?

You have the French text, read it

[Minimalist]

I think he's in favor of digging up the hill to see what's there....which, faulty translation or not, seems like a good idea to me.

I just doubt that the Mayans had anything to do with it.

[Beagle]

Sorry, my friend, I don't speak any language but English. If I am not understanding your post - I'm sorry.

[Leona Conner]

You guys are being a littel tough on Google. Big difference between something being translated by a machine and a human. This might be a good time to quote an old Native American axiom, "Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his moccasins."

Sure we all know where Bosnia is on the map. But until one of us actually gets there to see the pyramid in person, maybe we should give them a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.

[quote]I think he's in favor of digging up the hill to see what's there....which, faulty translation or not, seems like a good idea to me.
[/quote]

Okay.

[Beagle]

Right on, Leona.

[FaraonVisoko]

You guys are being a littel tough on Google. Big difference between something being translated by a machine and a human. This might be a good time to quote an old Native American axiom, "Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his moccasins."

Sure we all know where Bosnia is on the map. But until one of us actually gets there to see the pyramid in person, maybe we should give them a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.

I think he's in favor of digging up the hill to see what's there....which, faulty translation or not, seems like a good idea to me.

Okay.

Niste me uopste impresionirali

Okay..

[Leona Conner]

"Niste me uopste impresionirali "

That's not French, new friend.

[FaraonVisoko]

"Niste me uopste impresionirali "

That's not French, new friend.

Vous ne m'avez pas impressioné ,madame.

[Irna]

FRENCH

ENGLISH by GOOGLE

Hello,
I'll try to improve the translation, but I don't know wether I'm better than Google :-)

" I am astonished when I read your sterile debates on this forum.
Most of you are not even able to locate Bosnia on a map.
It is easy to practise archaeology from air-conditioned offices (like mine by the way) without taking part in the excavations on the site “of the Bosnian pyramids”. The important thing in Visoko, it is that there is something, and it is not only one dirt and stone heap.
What do you think of this ? If I carry on my trade like you all (most of the posters on topic of the Bosnian pyramids) ? Payed by the taxpayers, and with single merit the discovery of Semir Osmanagic, one impassioned). That you are jealous of Osmanagic and its “discovery”, that you are jealous of his ability to communicate and his attractive personnality. He is on the site and he is completely able to assume and digest a failure. He does not practise office archaeology like most of you here. He does not practise remote archaeology, remote control - it would never do. We will take you seriously the day we can see you in Bosnia, on the site ; then we will listen to you like with pleasure. In the meantime leave us alone, to play in our country with our dirt and our heaps of stone."

(in fact, I don't understand at all, even in french, the part about the trade and the tax-payers... maybe it was also googled in french ?)

FaraonVisoko,

pas de généralisations abusives : en ce qui me concerne, je sais parfaitement situer la Bosnie sur une carte (j'y ai même pas mal voyagé, longtemps avant la guerre), et j'ai l'impression qu'une bonne partie des gens qui interviennent sur ce forum ne sont pas aussi incultes que vous voulez le croire !
Quant à pratiquer "l'archéologie de bureau", personnellement, je ne prétends absolument pas "faire de l'archéologie" - je ne suis d'ailleurs pas archéologue. Mais vous devez comprendre qu'une découverte comme celle revendiquée par M. Osmanagic intrigue énormément, et que des esprits curieux cherchent à en savoir plus ; il vous faut aussi admettre qu'il ne puisse être question de croire purement et simplement : une découverte aussi révolutionnaire doit s'appuyer sur des preuves irréfutables. Plutôt que de vous plaindre sur ce forum, vous pourriez, si vous êtes à Visoko, essayer de convaincre les gens de la Fondation de la nécessité de publier leurs arguments scientifiques, plutôt que des dizaines de photos sans intérêt.
Par ailleurs, si M. Osmanagic a raison et que les pyramides existent, des monuments de cette importance feraient automatiquement partie du patrimoine de toute l'humanité, et pas de la seule Bosnie ; c'est aussi pour cela que vous ne pouvez pas vous contenter de dire "laissez-nous notre tas de sable"...

Cordialement,
Irna

PS Sorry for the non-french speakers, I'm too lazy to translate this ; in fact, it has all allready been told in the pyramid thread, the necessity for scientific argumentation and so on...

[alrom]

If we can't go to Bosnia to see what's there then we can't say anything about the pyramids?

That doesn't make much sense. That would also mean that you can't have an opinion on Giza pyramids if you have not been to Egypt and seen them by yourself.

To some extent, it is possible to evaluate things and make yourself an opinion about something through pictures and written data. Yes it's better to be there, but that's all we have and some people believe that it's enough to conclude that there's no pyramid there. Instead of calling those people 'armchair archaeologists' or whatever, they should get a refutation of their arguments.

[Frank Harrist]

I think google probably needs to work on their translation services.

Indeed! I gathered that he was unhappy with us "armchair archaeologists" telling the bosnians how to handle a dig in their own country. I think this all started out as friendly advice from us to them and they took offense to it and thought we were trying to stop the dig just to hold Bosnia down as a country. I personally don't care about Bosnia, one way or the other. I do. however care about archaeology and I haven't seen it there. If it's being done properly and not destroying the heritage of the Bosnian people then I have no quarrel with it. I wish only the best for Bosnia, but it really doesn't concern me in any meaningful way. Let 'em dig the whole damn country up. See if I care.