Noah's Flood...

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:05 pm

Moses Invests? Be nice to the Jews They control ALL the worlds money. A classic image or a Jew was Greenspan, our national money guy. Perhaps he still is----if not---it will be a stein somebody with a middle eastern look and a big nose. All of our foreign deplomacy routes through Israel for approval before it is approved.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:13 pm

Archaeology has already proven it....just a bunch of lies created by ambitious priests to account for a supposed conquest that never happened but which they wanted to use to justify territorial ambitions as the Assyrian empire collapsed under the weight of Babylonian assaults.

You refusing to accept what science has proven is not science's problem... it is your's.

Keep worshipping god's stormtrooper if you like.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:14 pm

gunny wrote:Moses Invests? Be nice to the Jews They control ALL the worlds money. A classic image or a Jew was Greenspan, our national money guy. Perhaps he still is----if not---it will be a stein somebody with a middle eastern look and a big nose. All of our foreign deplomacy routes through Israel for approval before it is approved.

Ah, yes.....Pat Buchanan with his Israel Amen Corner of the US Congress. I have no use for the guy but that was one of his better lines.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:23 pm

like i said, i would have heart failure if someone actually tried to have a serious discussion sans the peripheral gutter option

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:25 pm

You don't want a serious discussion.

You want to discuss magic.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:29 pm

no magic is not biblical and when mentioned in the bible it is usually mention as something bad since it depends upon illusion and mystical powers.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:52 pm

When you have your god throwing down fire and brimstone or making the sun stand still in the sky or turning people into pillars of salt or talking snakes or calming the storm or walking on water or raising the dead or resurrrecting themselves you are sqaurely in the realm of magic. And that is being polite about it. I usually use the word "bullshit."

Oddly, when any other faith utilizes any of the above motifs or something similar you denounce them as pagans.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:25 pm

Oddly, when any other faith utilizes any of the above motifs or something similar you denounce them as pagans.

yes and your point??

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:32 pm

That you are a hypocrite.

I thought that was obvious.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:06 pm

That you are a hypocrite

why would i be a hypocrite? would you call govts. murders because they use the death penalty or woul dyou say they were practicing punishment?
i am not a death penalty advocate, so don't go there yet this does tie in with noah's flood in the way that God saw the wrong being done and He sent a punishment.

after all it is His world and His creation, he does get to do with it as He wants.just because you think it is wrong doesn't mean itis.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:29 pm

You are a hypocrite because you accuse any other religion that believes in magic of being pagans while your own reliance on magic is somehow different.

It is not.

You are all given to delusions.

I also oppose the death penalty...but your fucking bible wants people stoned to death for working on the Sabbath so don't go dragging up that lame argument again.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:37 am

with that attitude i don't know why you talked to me for so long. i certainly would have preferred someone else.

your prejudice and closed mind wasn't conducive to ay conversation, i am not sure how this topic got so far along

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:41 am

what proof is there that it was only a local flood/ i doubt you can prove the biblical flood tale false given the evidence we have recovered throughout the world.

i would like to see an objective, annottated, logical, scientific response that is concise and to the point with resource reference sans opinion, personal attack, inuendo, generalities and so on.

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:29 am

Perhaps Arch prefers to talk to me instead ? To answer a simple question with a simple answer .The desert came first ,then the camel .Evolution teaches that organisms adapt to varying environment .I tought Arch could at least understand that ,and if not foresee it as an argument any intelligent person could come up with .In his case it was too difficult .I had to tell him even that .Now just going back to Einstein for a second .His statement was made about the cosmologic constant ,which was a parameter introduced by him in the formula to explain the static nature of the universe as it was believed in those days to be static ..It was swept away after Hubble discovered the universe was expanding .The cosmolig constant was beleived to be by einstein the greatest blunder of his career .Hence the statement you are refering to .Much to my delight (and certainly his,had he been alive then ) the existence of the cosmological constant was discovered to be true and exact after his death .So the argument you used turns against you arch .More luck next time .

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:33 am

Oh just one more thing Arch sothe flood happened because there are stories allover the world about it ? What were the name of those gods described during the Gilgmesh epoch which predates the Noah story .I forgot but I didn't plan to invoke them anyway .One fairytale is worth another no more ,no less.