Africa/Egyptian presence and jewelry in Mesoamerica?

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kbs2244 wrote:Ish:
Where in Africa?
And how old?
I have made the point on other threads that the Phoenicians commonly made a 3 year clockwise trading circuit around Africa.
So, if on the west coast, in addition to a southward exploration/trading trip from Gibraltar, it may have been a northbound one from the Red Sea.


On that score....

http://www.ybw.com/auto/newsdesk/200806 ... neral.html
More than 2,500 years after the first circumnavigation of Africa by the Phoenicians, a brand new replica ship with 20 paying crew is preparing to follow in the footsteps of these ancient mariners.

According to the Greek Historian, Herodotus, in 600 BC, Phoenician mariners achieved the first circumnavigation of Africa in a 21-metre square-rigged ship with around 10 rowing stations on each side.
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I have lost faith it this guy. I think he is a headline grabber.

On his first trip from Indonesia to the west coast of Africa he proved it could be done in an old style boat.
But he tacked way out West into the Atlantic and then came back to a pre-determined point.
This instead of coasting up the west coast, which he admitted was the way it should have been done.
And he never came up with a reason why it would ever have been done in the first place. He just proved it was possible.

And this trip is, bluntly, for the money.
The Phoenician trips took 3 years.
I believe I read elseware that he is trying to do it in 3 months.
This is going to mean long off shore passages, with modern navigation, to make time.
It is not a true re-creation.

But if he manages to make people realize some of the capabilities of the old technologies, I guess he has accomplished something good.
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I believe the reason for the three years was they over wintered and also sowed and harvest crops.

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And seasonal winds.

Plus they were trading trips.
You have to go ashore and spend some time among the locals if you want to trade with them.
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I believe the reason for the three years was they over wintered and also sowed and harvest crops.
Necho appears to have been an expansionist. If he hadn't pissed off the Babylonians, he might have renewed the empire to its former glory. He was creating an Egyptian marine fleet and attempting to connect the Red Sea with the Mediterranean to create an ancient "Rapid Deployment Force".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necho_II
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