Current Biblical Archaeology

[Minimalist]

Wrong.

not wrong...those letters were discovered long after the Bible was put together and published in one volume. making the Bible first.

Discovered by US. The people who wrote them did not need to discover them!

[Guest]

Discovered by US. The people who wrote them did not need to discover them!

you forget, the Bible was put together in the east, close to the original civilizations and came to the west thus the documents were long buried and for centuries the Bible was the only source for such nations.

which of course made dismissing them easy until the uncovering of such letters by archaeologists who immediately had to wipe the egg off their faces as the Bible was proven reliable. AGAIN and AGAIN.

[Beagle]

I'm watching Exodus Decoded now. So far, there are some interesting views. Much of it is the same old stuff though. You'll want to take notes.

[marduk]

you forget, the Bible was put together in the east, close to the original civilizations and came to the west thus the documents were long buried and for centuries the Bible was the only source for such nations.

yup can't fault you there
of course there were copies of all the bible stories in their original pre hebrew format at alexandria
but the catholics burnt that to make the bible special
wonder why

[Minimalist]

I thought the Romans burned the library of Alexandria?

[marduk]

caesar burned just a little bit when he was pursuing Pompey in 48 BCE but that was accidentally

Bishop Gregory Bar Hebræus, a Christian who spent a great deal of time writing about Moslem atrocities claimed that the Moslem Caliph Omar burned the library in 640ACE but it was burnt 200 years earlier when the moslems didn't actually exist. Bishop Gregory was writing around 900ACE and didn't worry too much about details and was actually just writing crap about another religion as per church policy at that time
it was utterly destroyed around 400ACE at which point
Theophilus (catholic) actually burnt a pagan temple (Temple of Serapis) and rebuilt a christian church on the spot. a large bonfire was reportedly seen outside the temple shortly before its destruction which is believed to have spread to the main library whether deliberately or accidentally nobody knows
convenient eh

no witnesses
however
three groups were present in Alexandria at that time
Jews - employed as librarians
pagans - who had worshipped there for millenia and who regarded the whole area as sacred
Catholics - new boys on the block looking for trouble


Min the romans in 400ACE were the Catholics
thats why its called Roman Catholicism

[Minimalist]

Min the romans in 400ACE were the Catholics

When I think of Romans I think of pila flying, swords crashing and ballista firing.

You can keep those pussy religious romans for all I care. They don't count.

[Beagle]

Well, the show is about over and I've seen enough. It raises some some pretty wild questions but I'll wait for the eventual discussion after you've sent Arch a copy.

[Minimalist]

It comes on here in 40 minutes.

I may have to leave the Yanks-RedSox for it.

Ah, well....c'est la vie.

[Beagle]

You may wish you hadn't.

[Guest]

I thought the Romans burned the library of Alexandria?

actually the romans did in 48 b.c. but there is quite a story that goes with it. the following is taken from 'Libraries in the Ancient World' by Lionel Casson pgs. 45 & 46:

"How long did the library of Alexandria last? Onky until about 48 b.c.when it was destroyed by fire, some say. Not all of it say others; it wasmerely damaged then and notseriously."

"When the alexandrian mob was incited against the romans, the political situation exploded into violence and caeser ...found himself in a difficult and dangerous spot. He barricaded himself in the palace area...to avoidthe risk of being cut off from his ships, he was forced to ward of the danger with fire, and this, spreading from the dockyards, destroyed the great library. so writes Plutarch inhis lifeof ceasar."

"The historian Dio Cassius has a somewhat different version: many places were set on fire, with the result that, along with other builkdings, the dockyards and the storehouses, and books, said to be great in number and of the finest, were burned."

then on pg. 47:

"The end of the library probably came in a.d. 270 or so, when the emporer Aurelian, in the course of suppressing the insurgency of the kingdom of Palmyra, engaged in bitter fighting in Alexanderia. During the struggle the palace area was laid waste including, presumably, the library."

[Minimalist]

Beags, I can honestly say that I am going to have to go out and buy a bigger sack to hold all the horseshit that was portrayed in this movie.

Much worse than I would have thought from the dialogue that Arch posted between Shanks and Jacobovici.

[Guest]

You may wish you hadn't.

Much worse than I would have thought from the dialogue that Arch posted between Shanks and Jacobovici.

that bad huh?

[Minimalist]

At one point I found myself remembering Erich Von Daniken.

Not so much in the first book but in some of the later ones, VD developed the habit of suggesting something....making a few comments about it and then saying "Well...now that we have established THAT."

Jacobovici did that a lot.

[Minimalist]

He never attempts to reconcile the fact that the Hyksos were rulers with the fact that the bible claims the Israelites were slaves.

He simply 'converts' the Hyksos into slaves!



On the plus side, for you, he gets your boys, Hoffmeier and Pellegrino into the camera.