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1. find israeli artifacts in egypt at that time, which would prove me wrong but the Bible right
2. find egyptian artifacts everywhere and prove me right and the Bible right still.

Ahmose would not have had to wage a 17 year military campaign to "drive out" slaves that he already owned

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Ahmose would not have had to wage a 17 year military campaign to "drive out" slaves that he already owned

this war was against the Hyksos not the Israelites, and it didn't say it went for 17 years. so i think you are confusing things a bit here.

THERE WERE NO GODDAMN ISRAELITES. "Expulsion of the Hyksos in Year 16 of his reign."

Actually, he inherited the war from his brother and father and one has to add on the years spent in pursuit back to Canaan.


now let's look at what why theory establishes:

1. it shows that the Israelites could very possibly be in egypt as the Bible says.

It shows no such thing. It shows that a Semitic people from Canaan, known as the Hyksos were in Egypt. They were there as conquerors, not slaves. Period.

2. it shows that they would not have left any evidence as all they would own would be of Egyptian origin.

The Hyksos left shit all over the Delta. The Israelites left nothing because they did not exist.

3. it shows that when they left, they would be taking Egyptian products with them not Israeli ones thus leaving little proof of their travels

There were no 'israelite products' to take. There were Canaanite items that they tried to carry away.

next, there are a couple new expanded points i will bring out;

1. we can not tell by the food they ate if they were Israeli or Egyptian for they would have eaten egyptian food or whatever canaanite food they usually ate. the dietary laws were given at sinai long after their departure from the land. thus they were basically free to eat what they would like as there was no such thing as kosher food at that time.

Let me get this straight....you want to study old shit to see if there were pork bones in it? Be my guest. Let me know how you make out. (ps...Finkelstein notes that one of the main differences between Israelite communities and their neighbors was that the recognizable Israelite towns did not eat pork. Of course, this is centuries after the Hyksos expulsion.

2. for the patriarchal system what laws would they be following? certainly not the Jewish laws or the ten commandments as they were not given till after the exodus began, long after the patriarchal era ended.

The Israelites did not exist and the Hyksos were probably running too fast from Ahmose's army to worry about it.

thus if one is looking for observance of jewish law, you will not find any till nearly the conquest period. the patriarchs were not under such a thing thus their living habits would not leave jewish evidence behind. it wasn't in existence at that time.

I am not looking for Jewish law....that was a much later invention. Doubtlessly tinkered with extensively before the final re-write AFTER the Babylonian exile.

so again, the possibility of the patriarchal era and the egyptian sojourn are not only possible but a reality, especially when you look forhe right evidence.

You have NO evidence. You have wishful thinking which flies in the face of historical reality.

1. THERE WERE NO GODDAMN ISRAELITES

2. The Israelites left nothing because they did not exist

3. The Israelites did not exist

4. "there's no fuck in Israelites."

You have NO evidence. You have wishful thinking which flies in the face of historical reality

It shows no such thing. It shows that a Semitic people from Canaan, known as the Hyksos were in Egypt

Arch since we by nowhave no doubts anymore regarding your abilities to cope with arguments could you kindly give us your definition of rational ,that might explain a lot .

sorry mini, but saying it this many times in a post just doesn't make it true.

and considering that Egypt's eastern border was fortified and probably patrolled by soldiers, it is difficult to understand how massive numbers of foreign people could have simply migrated into northern Egypt.

The Merneptah stele contains the first appearance of the name Israel in any surviving ancient text. This again raises the basic questions: Who were the Semites in Egypt? Can they be regarded as Israelite in any meaningful sense? No mention of the name Israel has been found in any of the inscriptions or documents connected with the Hyksos period. Nor is it mentioned in later Egyptian inscriptions, or in an extensive fourteenth century BC cuneiform archive found at Tell el-Amarna in Egypt, whose nearly four hundred letters describe in detail the social, political, and demographic conditions in Canaan at that time. As we will argue in a later chapter, the Israelites emerged only gradually as a distinct group in Canaan, beginning at the end of the thirteenth century BC. There is no recognizable archaeological evidence of Israelite presence in Egypt immediately before that time.

There is no recognizable archaeological evidence of Israelite presence in Egypt immediately before that time.

No mention of the name Israel has been found in any of the inscriptions or documents connected with the Hyksos period. Nor is it mentioned in later Egyptian inscriptions, or in an extensive fourteenth century BC cuneiform archive found at Tell el-Amarna in Egypt, whose nearly four hundred letters describe in detail the social, political, and demographic conditions in Canaan at that time