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We wouldn't even know about Akenahten if the fill in one of the pylons at the temple at Karnack hadn't spilled out revealing the remains of his temple in small blocks. It's a huge jigsaw puzzle and no-one has succeded in putting it all together. It's hard without the box top. There were clues discovered around such as the bust of Nefertiti and the Amarna texts, written by Tutankahmun's widow. Someone, and a lot of them, wanted him forgotten.

Priests then....pretty much like priests now....serve their own interests first.

They would have had a powerful incentive to "restore" the gods - and themselves - to their rightful place. It was quite lucrative for them.

There are way too many assumptions on this thread. There is no proof that Tut was the son of Akhenaten. There is no proof that Ankhesenamun
was the queen who was referred to in the Amarna letters. There is no proof that Tiy helped either her husband or her son to rule.
Is this a meeting of Speculators Anonymous?

Well, a letter was sent by an Egyptian queen from the Amarna period to the Hittites asking for a royal prince to be her husband. Whether it was Nefertiti or Ankesenamun it had to be a queen whose husband had died and Tut seems to fit the bill better.

The Hittites ignored her first request. So a couple years later she sent another request letter. This time the Hittites despatched a prince. But the prince and his party were ambushed and slaughtered by bandits at the Egyptian/Canaanite border (sound familiar?). So the Hittites, wisely, never ventured their help anymore. After years sans pharaoh, something had to happen. So they grabbed one of Akhenaton's umpteen sons – a nine-year old named Tutankhamun – and made him pharaoh. But a nine-year old doesn't do no ruling. That's what his mom does for him! So Nefertiti de facto ruled Egypt. Until factotum and grand vizir Kye showed his true colors and wrested power from Nefertiti (killed her?). He then proceeded to kill the young boy-king to become the next pharaoh himself...

those silly royals!

Velikovsky, of all people, has a lot of well researched insight into all this with his "Oedipus & Akhnaton." To start with, in Greek, 'oedipus' meant 'fat legs'. and if you've seen the sculpture of Akhaton, that's what you see. Its a recognized genetic condition, still often seen as a pear shaped figure.

Putting it all together, including what's been found since Velikovsky, Queen Tiy realized that her cross dressing faggot husband, Amenhotep IV, wasnt going to give her the son she wanted, so she found a Nubian slave to donate sperm.

And when the baby was born, the priests of Amon realized what happened, and shipped the boy out with a second baby on the nite camel train to Damascus. And Damascus, at this time, was really booming; both the silk and frankenscense roads crossed there, and there were foreigners of all kinds in town with all kinds of religious ideas.

Monotheism would have been the natural cosmology for merchants who saw gods being worshipped all over the place, and able to figure out what the lowest common denominator was.

And from the play we see where Ikky gets back to Thebes after 'daddy' dies, and marries the queen. Which was not a bad political move, as I'm sure the both of them well understood. And in the play we see the same kids come from that union. And later find the sister who was buried because she would not go along with the pharoah regarding the disposition of her brother's body... down in that unfinished tomb shaft. With a basket used, just as described in the play, to feed her.

There's much more to all this, but it all falls together just like a fine pot boiler. Machiavelli noted how the Egyptian royal families practiced incest to prevent any outside house from trying a coup. But Queen Tiy was not royal; she's a mayor's daughter from the boondox. And just as Machiavelli warned, her father fomented dissention between the two sons who were spozed to share power, as also outlined in the play.

But at the end of the day, Amenhotep's line is history, and it is the line of Queen Tiy and her daddy that take over the throne.

According to the legend Oedipus married his mother. Velikovsky says that when the tomb of Huya in Akhet-Aton was opened they found bas-reliefs of Akhnaton, his wife and children and the royal mother, Tiy. If Tiy was Akhnaton mother, was she also his wife and the mother of his children? Tiy is referred to as "King's Mother and Great Royal Wife." Of course, it could refer to the deceased Amenhotep III. I found all of Velikovsky's books thought provoking to say the least, especially when she compares the Queen of Sheba to Hatsepshut.

Hatshepsut would probably be pissed at the comparison.

T3 wrote:There are way too many assumptions on this thread. There is no proof that Tut was the son of Akhenaten. There is no proof that Ankhesenamun
was the queen who was referred to in the Amarna letters. There is no proof that Tiy helped either her husband or her son to rule.
Is this a meeting of Speculators Anonymous?

Nothing wrong with speculating. Also, we aren't the first to speculate these particular speculations. Feel free to speculate your own speculations as well.

Speculation? So what?
That's still 10 times more veracity than in Shakespeare's plays!

Rokcet Scientist wrote:Speculation? So what?
That's still 10 times more veracity than in Shakespeare's plays!

Et tu, Brute?

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it is obvoius that priests didnt like akhenaten at all.i dont think that people liked him either.

How would you feel if someone all of a sudden told you that you couldn't worship the pantheon of gods that had been worshipped for a couple thousand years and told you that you had to worship one new god. And also told you that he was the only representative of the new god on earth and you could only worship through him.

also i read somewhere that akhenaten made a vow that he would never leave his capital.and therefore as he didnt travel to inspect the administration he knew nothin of government.and also when the chief of palestine which was part of egypt asked for help and army he didnt even bother to answer his requests!!!
and about the letter send to hittites.i think it was sent by tut's wife.

tut-ankh-amon died at the age of 18 and his young widow at once wrote to king of the hittites and asking for his sun in marriage and saying that she would make him king of egypt but among akhenaten's entourage there had been a pries of of amon called Ay.he had been ostensibly one of the strongest supporter of aten religion was high in the royal favour at tell el amarna where he had held important offices.when Akhenaten died and the Aten religion was abolished , Ay declared publicly his attachment to Amon.under Akhenaten he had risen as high as any subject could rise ;now with death of Tut-ankh-amon, he saw the prize of the kingshi within his grasp.with nothing but one little girl as a n obstacle to his ambitions.there was only one way to obtain what he desired.the young prince was met on his journey to egypt by a party of Ay's men and murdered, and the little girl-queen disappears from history without leaving any trace

nefertiti was seperated from Akhenaten after she had borne him six daughters and lived or was imprisoned in another part of Tell el amarana.so why should she bother to write to hittites.she wasnt the mother of Tut-ankh-amon was she???

King tut was not murdered as Rocket Scientist would have you believe, there is forensic evidence that he died of natural causes. Scientists have found that the hole in Tut's head was not from a blow to the head, but happened post mortum. He was found to have died of gangrene from a broken leg. A CAT scan was performed and that was the accepted assesment.