Stonehenge

stan · Post by **stan** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:12 pm

Another thing is that the pen or quill has a wider
nib in "Stonehenge."

it also seems a little wierd that someone taking the trouble do draw Stonehenge would draw it the size of a postage stamp!

Sam Salmon · Post by **Sam Salmon** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:55 pm

Well someone somewhere had the time of their life laughing/celebrating/braying to their contemporaries about putting on over on the media-
Good On Them!

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:20 pm

The drawing, recently identified by the art historian Christian Heck, has never been exhibited, but according to the Art Newspaper it will be seen next year in an exhibition at the Royal Academy in London, marking the 300th anniversary of the Society of Antiquaries.

This has me wondering. Are we saying that something being displayed in the Royal Academy is a fake? After looking carefully, I can see that another party wrote the word "Stonehenge" after the fact, but the above named Mr. Heck still seems to feel it is genuine.

What am I missing, and why was it found in France?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:52 pm

Having done a little research I have just discovered that Christian Heck is French and therefore not to be trusted

Sam Salmon · Post by **Sam Salmon** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:39 pm

Beagle wrote:
The drawing, recently identified by the art historian Christian Heck, has never been exhibited, but according to the Art Newspaper it will be seen next year in an exhibition at the Royal Academy in London, marking the 300th anniversary of the Society of Antiquaries.
This has me wondering. Are we saying that something being displayed in the Royal Academy is a fake?

No it means that someone has tricked the paper into believing a false Press Release.

Media drink each other's bathwater-s'fact.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:01 pm

No it means that someone has tricked the paper into believing a false Press Release.

OK. That's a lot easier to believe than the Royal Academy being fooled. Maybe there will be more news about this later. See ya Sam.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:58 am

looks like its only the Guardian thats picked up that story as well
if it was genuine it would be national news in England
hasn't been on the daily news at all
imo more than anything else that shows its bogus
I showed it to someone studying Archaeology at Cambridge university
her opinion "there one born every minute"

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:37 pm

Remember Piltdown Man? There were casts of this early englishman in every museum I visited.

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:38 am

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/comment/stor ... 16,00.html

By the agrarian revolution of the third millennium BC Stonehenge was already an important site, but its extension about 2300BC was clearly intended by its guardians to make it a major pilgrimage attraction. This needed some sensational draw, and what could be more sensational than a henge composed of the fabled Preseli bluestones, fount of a hundred holy wells? It was worth any Olympian expense.

This theory makes a lot of sense to me.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:19 pm

One useless piece of information for all. I Live near the Preselis and there appears to be no modern interest in the waters and no claims to any curative properties. But it don't half rain there!

Bruce · Post by **Bruce** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:26 pm

That's because you have Rocky Mountain spring water today. They flock here by the thousands. Different times, different places!

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:53 pm

You can buy Welsh spring water locally but none of it comes from the Preselis. Before I retired I visited many of the local farms and some do use well water, but most of the streams shown on the maps flow only periodically and flooding on the coastal side can be very quick and usually very brief as the rock on the hills is close to the surface with very rapid run off.
Magic wells have a long history in Celtic tradition but I know of none in the Preselis. Is this perhaps another example of experts riding a private hobby horse?

stan · Post by **stan** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:05 pm

On the topic of healing springs, a century there were dozens of resorts in the Southeastern US with waters containing various minerals.
Sometimes iron "Chalybeate Springs."
Sometimes sulfur "White Sulfur Springs."
Sometimes the water was warm "Warm Springs, Georgia"
I wonder if these minerals actually had curative properties, or was
it just the exercise and relaxation?
(A quick google search showed me that they were or are all over Europe a well as the US.) But in these parts, these healing waters are no longer
"resorted" to.

I suppose that if ancient humans had discovered these curative
properties, they would have made pilgrimages to them.

Mike Jupp, you Brits probably know about "Seahenge."
I read that book a year or so ago, and the author believes that these henge sites were holy places of pilgrimages and annual ceremonial and social gatherings, built up communally over time.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:43 am

Not 'resorted' to Stan? Ever heard of Bath?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:13 am

Remember Piltdown Man? There were casts of this early englishman in every museum I visited

WOWOW you must be extremely advanced in years Digit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
it was exposed as a fraud in 1953
of course I have seen some people (namely creationists) still using it as evidence that all ancient homo fossils have been faked by the scientific community to disprove Gods word
despite the fact that it was exposed by the same people that they are trying to discredit
iirc Martin A.C. Hinton a palaeontologist is currently believed to be the main contender as the hoaxer
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_18974456
like the guy listed Hoaxes as one of his favourite past times in his entry in Whos who
doh