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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:43 am
by Digit
I read these posts this morning before entering hospital where I have been diagnosed with an aggressive cancer of the prostate, and Min, the growth of plants in Spring is still magical to me.
I still see the world as Jesus said, 'through the eyes of a child', and despite a scientific background I find the concept of the 'blind watch maker' difficult to accept.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:47 am
by Charlie Hatchett
I read these posts this morning before entering hospital where I have been diagnosed with an aggressive cancer of the prostate
I'm sorry to here this Digit. When did you learn of your condition?
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:51 am
by Forum Monk
God be with you, Digit.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:13 am
by Minimalist
but the point that many of them make is there are significant gaps in ToE as well. There are plenty of theories. Everyone has theories but there are few observations or experiments which confirm them.
In an earlier statement, Min, you said the 'lies' of the creationists made you question their motives. I am curious what you think their motives are. Control the world? Convert you to Christianity? Convert you grandchildren to christianity? Point out some flaws in the accepted paradigms?
ON the first point, MOnk, I agree. The difference is that science continues to look for answers. They don't punt by saying: "We're stumped....'god' must have done the rest."
As to motives? I'd answer "All of the above." I'd also add in that these are people with a vested financial interest in keeping the sheep in line and getting them to continue to pay up.
As for the flaws? A lot of their so-called flaws are straw man arguments in the first place.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:15 am
by Minimalist
Terrible news, Digit. Are they going to operate?
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:31 am
by Digit
Dunno yet Min. The strange thing is my reaction to the news, I found it strangely calming, no 'why me?' 'what have I done?'
But like I said, the world is a magical place and if this it it's been great!
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:06 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit,
I comiserate. And I wish you and yours great strength.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:12 am
by Minimalist
Digit wrote:Dunno yet Min. The strange thing is my reaction to the news, I found it strangely calming, no 'why me?' 'what have I done?'
But like I said, the world is a magical place and if this it it's been great!
Don't think like that. They have made great strides in treating cancer in recent years. I'm not a great fan of doctors but at a time like this you just have to let them do their thing and follow orders.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:21 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:
Don't think like that. They have made great strides in treating cancer in recent years. I'm not a great fan of doctors but at a time like this you just have to let them do their thing and follow orders.
Absolutely! I'm not a fan of that 'Jedi' class either, but they do provide your best odds.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:41 am
by kbs2244
That is real scary.
I do not like the “aggressive” part.
May all our Gods be with you.
Theocratic and scientific.
Maybe it is time for a miracle?
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:45 am
by Digit
Thanks KB appreciated. Time will tell, meantime I get on with living!
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:55 am
by Digit
I have had so many kind words of support in the last few hours that I would like to take this opportunity of thanking you all.
I have been written off once before by the medicos so I refuse to be too down hearted and thank you all again.
Roy.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:34 am
by Charlie Hatchett
Thanks KB appreciated. Time will tell, meantime I get on with living!
I like your attitude, Roy.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:49 am
by Digit
Thanks Charley, frankly I'm amazed at my own reaction to the news.
I'm not happy but I'm not about to shoot myself either.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:53 am
by Minimalist
Digit wrote:I have had so many kind words of support in the last few hours that I would like to take this opportunity of thanking you all.
I have been written off once before by the medicos so I refuse to be too down hearted and thank you all again.
Roy.
That's the spirit. Fuck 'em. Prove them wrong!!!