Afrca to N. Europe to Japan: the Jomon & Anu - Ainu Ques

[Forum Monk]

Yes.... a guy with an intellect as big as his.. How unusual.

Yes, for the majority, the appropriate adjective would be "as small as".

[Ishtar]

The Egyptian city of Heliopolis (renamed as such by the Greeks) was originally called Annu.

The Greeks renamed it as they changed it from a city that worshipped many gods to one that just one worshipped the sun.

Annu/Heliopolis remained as the Greeks' main centre for sun worship until something changed their mind (during their 300 year rule of Egypt) and they moved their sun worship centre to Alexandria.

This is the hieroglyph for Annu. This may be of some help in identifying where else these shapes are used in tracing other Anu connections.



The vase/urn is a symbol that often represents the womb, therefore it could be referring to the fertility of the mother goddess, or Heavenly Cow, Hathor/Isis.

The cross in the second circle is similar to the cross of Min, the Bull of Heaven.



Inanna/Ishtar of the Babylonian/Akkad/Sumerians is the daughter of An and is also married to the Bull of Heaven, Tammuz/Dumuzi.

The Egyptians have several creation myths, each associated with a particular city or town. There is a Creation Myth of Annu.

[Minimalist]

Hancock states that Heliopolis ( Innu in Ancient Egyptian) meant "pillar".

If memory serves, we don't really know what the vowel sounds were in Egyptian which is damned uncivilized of them.

[PaulMarcW]

Ishtar. Interesting that the encircled "X" is as well the symbol for "town/village".

I'd not seen the majority of the symbols or images you've shown above.

It was Massey that I first encountered who, among some others, saw the Anu as establishing the foundations for ancient Egypt in prehistoric times (that it's so could be right or wrong).

It seems their footprints may possible be found in trajectories in many ancient places that could lead back to Egypt and/or Mesopotamia.

[PaulMarcW]

This post relates to three areas of discussion in the thread above:

[A] Geneaology: India, bible, North Africa

Thrace

[C] Anu

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[A] GENEALOGY

Ishtar, you quoted:

The sons of Yayäti’s fourth son, Anu, were Sabhänara, Caksu and Paresnu. Of these three, the sons and grandsons of Sabhänara were, in succession, Kälanara, Srnjaya, Janamejaya, Mahäsäla and Mahämanä. The sons of Mahämanä were Usinara and Titiksu. Usinara had four sons, namely Sibi, Vara, Krmi and Daksa. Sibi also had four sons—Vrsadarbha, Sudhira, Madra and Kekaya. The son of Titiksu was Rusadratha, who begot a son named Homa. From Homa came Sutapä and from Sutapä, Bali. In this way the dynasty continued.

No doubt many have spoken of this similarity with the bible in recording geneaology as this that follows:

The sons of Judah:
Er, Onan and Shelah. These three were born to him by a Canaanite woman, the daughter of Shua. Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the LORD's sight; so the LORD put him to death. 4 Tamar, Judah's daughter-in-law, bore him Perez and Zerah. Judah had five sons in all.

5 The sons of Perez:
Hezron and Hamul.

6 The sons of Zerah:
Zimri, Ethan, Heman, Calcol and Darda [a] —five in all.

7 The son of Carmi:
Achar, [ b] who brought trouble on Israel by violating the ban on taking devoted things. [c]

8 The son of Ethan:
Azariah.

9 The sons born to Hezron were:
Jerahmeel, Ram and Caleb. [d] From Ram Son of Hezron

10 Ram was the father of
Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, the leader of the people of Judah. 11 Nahshon was the father of Salmon, [e] Salmon the father of Boaz, 12 Boaz the father of Obed and Obed the father of Jesse.

13 Jesse was the father of
Eliab his firstborn; the second son was Abinadab, the third Shimea, 14 the fourth Nethanel, the fifth Raddai, 15 the sixth Ozem and the seventh David. 16 Their sisters were Zeruiah and Abigail. Zeruiah's three sons were Abishai, Joab and Asahel. 17 Abigail was the mother of Amasa, whose father was Jether the Ishmaelite. Caleb Son of Hezron

18 Caleb son of Hezron had children by his wife Azubah (and by Jerioth). These were her sons: Jesher, Shobab and Ardon. 19 When Azubah died, Caleb married Ephrath, who bore him Hur. 20 Hur was the father of Uri, and Uri the father of Bezalel.

These identical ways of reporting geneaology are pretty interesting. I hadn't known about the way the Anu reported geneaology in India. Yet, it is quite similar to the way present-day writers (I don't know their source) report on prehistoric and pre-proto-Egyptian history in North Africa. Here's a quote:

From Gao, descendants of Nupe, Bariba, Sorko and Bambara moved north to the western foot of Mt. Ta-Hat where lived the Bel-la.Some Anu moved north along the Lualaba to Ba-ng-ui, north to N'Dja-mena to Lac Tchad, past the Te-nere to Akka-dez, Ta-sili Ta-N-Ahaggar to Ta-Men-ghest to Mt. Ta-Hat, Mt Dje-Bel Te-ter-Tiba (Theba), Dj-Anet and Anak in west Ta-Tjaemen. what is called Algeria today. Thus spread the Anu sounds ta, tiba, dje, ng, ai(ui) and an(ak)(et).

http://www.beforebc.de/all_africa/200_e ... heAnu.html

THRACE

About another subject in this thread, here is a quote from there:

Modern linguistics classifies the Thracians as an Indo-European people

Thrace was home to other populations in early times:


http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-20.html

[C] MORE ON THE ANU - here is a quote taken out of the Anu link I posted some days back:

In 9,600 BCE, the Bongo, Kango, Efe, Akka and Twa - the Anu peoples, lived in the forest at the foot of BABA TIBA (“Mountains of the Moon”) (Mt. Ruwenzori, east of Lake Kivu, Rwanda). The ANU say that in the beginning there was ELIMA (supreme being), TA-HU (Sacred Tree) of TA-HU-TI (Moon God) on BABA TIBA (“Mountains of the Moon”). The Anu gathered fruits, nuts and plants. When the Anu could not find fruit, nuts, or plants to eat, they hunted the creatures of the land for meat.The Anu listened to the sounds of the forests and learned to mimic them, therby learning how to sing from the creatures of the air. With their photograph aural memory preserving the intrusion of sounds, words and legends in the most ancient form, virtually unchaged compared to the changes that have occurred outside the forest, even among literate peoples, their pronunciations may be the closest to the original.

http://www.beforebc.de/all_africa/200_e ... heAnu.html

[PaulMarcW]

Ishtar. This from another site dealing with Japan's Ainu:


Nibutani Journal
Recognition for a People Who Faded as Japan Grew

By NORIMITSU ONISHI
Published: July 3, 2008

NIBUTANI, Japan — The Ainu had lived on Japan’s northernmost island for centuries, calling their home Ainu Mosir, or Land of Human Beings. Here, they had fished, hunted, worshiped nature and established a culture that yielded “Yukar,” an oral poem of Homeric length.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/world ... ref=slogin

[marc's note] The above just more information dealing with a continuing Ainu saga.

[Ishtar]

Thanks Paul-Marc. I'll take a look at this.

Btw, the Out of India theory has one of the Anu tribes leaving India to become the Phyrigians, who then become the Thraco-Phyrigians. These Phyrigians were the tribe occuping the same land area as the Hittites, before the Hittites, before moving off towards Greece.

[PaulMarcW]

Thanks for the sharing. I'd not heard that theory before.

All the best,