Current Biblical Archaeology

archaeologist18 · Post by **archaeologist18** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:47 pm

Do you really care what arch says?

since i have not sudied this time period archaeologically, i am not up to speed with all the latest developements. but before anyone blindly acepts this viewpoint, it would be wise to go behind the scenes and see what influences contaminated the whole process.

it is not a surprise or a shock to find a non-believing group of archaeologists dis-proving the Bible. this has gone on for decades. it is not hard to fudge the dates as the dating system is an arbitrary one and (carbon-14 is usually done on a curve) left to the summation of those conducting the experiments.

the problem is non-religious people require physical proof for everything before they will believe it and with the Bible you will not get it. you will get some physical proof but other things have to be taken by faith based on the evidence at hand.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:47 pm

archaeologist18 wrote:
Do you really care what arch says?
since i have not sudied this time period archaeologically, i am not up to speed with all the latest developements. but before anyone blindly acepts this viewpoint, it would be wise to go behind the scenes and see what influences contaminated the whole process.

it is not a surprise or a shock to find a non-believing group of archaeologists dis-proving the Bible. this has gone on for decades. it is not hard to fudge the dates as the dating system is an arbitrary one and (carbon-14 is usually done on a curve) left to the summation of those conducting the experiments.

the problem is non-religious people require physical proof for everything before they will believe it and with the Bible you will not get it. you will get some physical proof but other things have to be taken by faith based on the evidence at hand.

You are so distrustful of anything scientific, or just not christian. Like they all have some hidden agenda to discredit the bible. Actually science is in search of the truth. If that means the bible is true then so be it. If the reverse is true then so be that too. So I guess you think that anybody non-christian is in league with the devil. We're all evil! Eeeeeewwwwwwww! Skeery!
Christians are so clannish. They think everyone has bad intentions except them. "You're with us or you're against us." Thats the thing that pisses me off the most about them. If you ain't one of them then you must be scum and not to be trusted. That's christian charity!

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:07 pm

I just knew that you couldn't stay away for long, arch, and it was also predictable that with your fairy tales under attack by reputable scholars you would fall back on the obvious tactic of shooting the messenger instead of trying to disprove the message.

But, Dever, was one of YOU. A graduate of a Christian college and then studied at a Protestant seminary. According to his biography published in "What Did The Bible Writers Know and When Did They Know It" he also served as a Congregationalist minister.

Reading Dever, as opposed to Finklestein, one gets the distinct impression that he would love for this bible nonsense to be true but he is too much of a scholar to dismiss the facts which archaeology has uncovered.

Keep trying to breathe life into your fairy tales, arch.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:00 am

just knew that you couldn't stay away for long

first i need to address the generalization but i am nt here to stay, i justthought iwould post a few thoughts toplease whomever wondered about my opinion

You are so distrustful of anything scientific

i am not distrustful of science i am distrustful of those proclaiming their discoveries.

Actually science is in search of the truth.

that may be the ideal but there is no morality guiding it or those who do the searching.

They think everyone has bad intentions except them

no i don't think that at all, i just don't think it is wise to blindly accept something unless you check it out further.

But, Dever,

i know about Dever and i think he has lket skepticism rule instead of faith. as i said earlier, we won't be able to prove every point in the Bible archaeologically. just can't happen but what we can prove reinforces that which we can't.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:45 am

i think he has lket skepticism rule instead of faith

Translation: He has a brain and uses it. If only more people had the courage to stop believing in things because of 'faith' and instead made rational decisions based on evidence we'd all be better off.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:00 pm

He has a brain and uses it. If only more people had the courage to stop believing in things because of 'faith' and instead made rational decisions based on evidence we'd all be better off.

that includes all scientists, evolutionary thinking as they continue to say "we don't know..." or "we think this may have happened..." so in one sense i agree with you. all evolutionists should stop using faith and come to their senses and see that the evidence supports the Bible and not their own thoeries.

there is nothing rational about evolution especially when it relies on conjecture to fill in the blanks.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:04 pm

There is no evidence to support almost anything in your precious bible. There is nothing to it but Faith...which is the suspension of reason.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:14 pm

There is no evidence to support almost anything in your precious bible. There is nothing to it but Faith...which is the suspension of reason.

there is more evidence to support the Bible than there is of Plato's works, than proving shakespeare wrote his own plays and so on. you just won't admit to it.

there is nothing you can use to prove evolution because you have no way of showing that it is true without resorting to conjecture. charts mean noting whenthey ahve been drawn up in the modern age by those who believe the theory. of course they will show evolution happening, that is what they believe not what they have proven true.

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:51 am

Why don't you just stick on these silly-ass bumper stickers in the middle of your forehead.

Call it part of the Truth In Labelling Law!

As has been pointed out, you have nothing to add beyond a sad devotion to your childish mythology.

Real archaeologists are out there showing that the bible is basically a pile of bullshit from the word "go."

Face it.

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:39 am

Phew! Why do you bother?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:19 am

That's the problem with this site. It has turned into a bunch of people arguing science vs. faith. Neither side is going to win, because neither side will change their thinking. Why? Because insults will not open up a closed mind. Those on here with open minds, are just banging their heads against the wall, or leaving.

Tech · Post by **Tech** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:43 pm

Without making a personal attack
Archaeology is supposed to be a scientific research into the past ,
and anybody with a strong faith in any religeon will have their work and results corrupted by their faith and twisted to fit their veiw of the world, and should not be involved with what should be a purely scientific study.
For them to post on this forum is akin to the mormons who wont stop knocking on your door.

archaeologist19 · Post by **archaeologist19** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:21 pm

For them to post on this forum is akin to the mormons who wont stop knocking on your door.

typical non-religious thinking. normally that is called censorship or a violation of free speech.

i see that those who do not believe want to only have the playing field tilted in their favor. when it gets leveled the cry and take their ball and go home.

what men and women you really are. you are nothing but closed-minded cowards who fear the truth. same as any evolutionist who cries for a monopoly in the science classroom. they know they can't prove it so they force the lies on everyone and block attempts for alternative thinking. then they do the exact same things they complain about their opponents. if you are so right then you would not need a monopoloy on the classroom. BUT your not right so you must use every tatic possible to brainwash the unsuspecting.

you are all the same closed minded, intolerant and hypocrits. your pompous positioning clouds your reason and blinds you to the facts.

Tech · Post by **Tech** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:00 pm

Sorry Arch but I leave the brainwashing to the zealots .
A true archaeologist is just searching for the truth nothing else,
he/she has no agenda , no beliefs to cloud his/her judgement
and is only interested in facts.
This is how it should be as the only thing that really matters is the truth of the past.
If you dont agree with this then the only person you are fooling is yourself

Rokcet Scientist · Post by **Rokcet Scientist** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:09 pm

archaeologist19 wrote:
you are all the same closed minded, intolerant and hypocrits. your pompous positioning clouds your reason and blinds you to the facts.

Why so complimentary?