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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:38 am
by Tech
As my moniker suggests I am not an archaeologist , so I am here to learn and debate. If I want biblical , ID , creasionist or lunatic fringe info I will go to the appropriate sites , I DONT.
Any disruption of the forum to the extent that proffesional archaeoloists leave is a loss to the site and to any that are here to learn .
Arch
With regard to your "play mate" inflamatory post I refuse to be baited .
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:40 am
by stan
Frank and Michelle....
Does GV get to promote his book/business on this board?
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:43 am
by Guest
Tech, you need to review the inflammatory language of your fellow "lunatic" fringe Darwinite buddys.
Tech, tell me if this is accurate, your definintion of someone from the "lunatic fringe" is someone who disagrees with you.
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:45 am
by Guest
Stan, I have provided some links to germane information to the conversations, so where's the beef?
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:42 am
by Tech
Nope , feel free to disagree
but for fringe material
The Roman historian Dio (also known as Cassius) wrote that one day when Regulus, a Roman consul (third century B.C.) was fighting against Carthage (North Africa), a dragon suddenly crept up and settled behind the wall of the Roman army. The Romans killed it by order of Regulus, skinned it, and sent the hide to the Roman Senate. When the dragon was measured by order of the Senate, it turned to be an amazing 120 feet long, and the thickness was fitting to the length.
James I. Nienhuis
Weiss and Hickman I expect dragons from , not a serious supposedly non-fictional publication
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:47 am
by Morgana
Seems you guys didn't understand me correctly. I wasn't talking about GV. I have just got up to find that this thread has turned into a monster of nothing but attacks on an individual, on any other board I've been on this would be locks and labeled flaming. Stating opinions is not trolling. It is fuel for a good debate. Unfortunatly when peoeple decide not to listen to someone no matter what, those debates often degrade into mudslinging. I was attacked ferociously once because of my views concerning the care of horse hooves. After months of locked threads, I was able to convince the guy that there was really nothing to argue about and we got on to some constructive discusions where both sides learned things.
@GV: I would expect more of you then to continue laying your pearl before those who insist on acting like swine. Dust your sandals and move on to other topics. Debate with those who will listen or who have not heard your arguements before.
@All the rest of you: The Evolution/Creation debate will never be settled by evidences or documents. It is a philosophical issue that is at the root of interpretation of the word. Neither side can come to agreement without a change of world view. I could give you endless examples of creation or evolution and you would read them all as evolution, because that is what you can only see. Creation would mean that there is a God that you are responsible to. You want to be responsible only to yourselves. Personally I find myself to be a lousy king. Grow up, know what you believe, why you believe it, and let others be. I still can't figure out what athiests obsesion with "converting" is. Whats it to you that I believe in God? I would rather believe in a theory that shows everything to follow the knows laws of science than one that has to bend over backward to fit.
I'm done.
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:49 am
by Guest
You'll have to ask Cassius of Rome, he reported it, I didn't, and you should read the other historical accounts of encounters with dragons ("dinosaurs"), I compiled a nice cross-section.
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:55 am
by Guest
Why do you think the ancients sailed the oceans of the world in ships with dragons on the bows, fashioned after the gecko? Ahahahahahaha.
The animals of the Chinese zodiac are everyday animals (rooster, horse, pig, etc.), but the 12th is the dragon, how can this be?
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:07 am
by Tech
By that anology can we then say that
Faries , pixies , unicorns , centuars , leprechauns , werewolfs , cyclops , giants , gryphons , mermaids , minotuars , pegasus, an endless list of mythical creatures and even Trolls
were real
I doubt it
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:16 am
by Guest
They were all common animals represented in the Chinese zodiac, except the "mythological" dragon, so why did they include one supposedly mythological animal among the other commonly known animals?
And it looks like you think the bows of the ancient dragon ships were modeled after the known gecko, good job, you should do an ad campaign for Geico about that, it would be great.
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:19 am
by marduk
You'll have to ask Cassius of Rome, he reported it, I didn't, and you should read the other historical accounts of encounters with dragons ("dinosaurs"),
non sequiteur
Dragons are based on sea serpents
sea serpents are a recurring theme in sumerian stories where they are described as attacking boats with people in them
Palaeontology is a pretty recent science Jim
the ancients didn't know about dinosaurs because they died out 65,000,000 years ago and so weren't up to attacking anything by the time mankind came along
but of course
you'll have lots of evidence that dinosaurs were around at the time of Noah yes
and maybe an explanation as to why they weren't taken on the Ark despite god ordering Noah to take two of every living thing
i read that story a few times
god doesnt say to Noah
"leave the dinosaurs because i fucked up when i made them"
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:24 am
by Guest
Hey Morgana, I appreciate and thank you for your sentiments, but I enjoy jousting with these folks, they do go over the top in name-calling, but that comes with the territory, and I'm sure they've learned quite a bit already, 'though they probably wouldn't admit it, and thanks again for your refreshing input.
By the way, when Darwinists say creationists don't believe in evolution, make sure they say if they're talking about Darwinian evolution, or about evolution per se, that is their big semantic fix, pretty sneaky, to paint creationists as not believing in genetic variation and natural selection within the respective syngameons (there's one for you to google).
Thanks again.
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:27 am
by Guest
Of course the dragons were reprensented on the Ark, who told you otherwise?
How 'bout that quote from the Roman historian Cassius?
And didn't the Babylonians keep a dragon around to look mean?
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:28 am
by marduk
And didn't the Babylonians keep a dragon around to look mean
lol no
where did you hear that crap

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:47 am
by Tech
Name calling I have not resorted to , I have used the word troll as a descriptive to your type of posting ,no other .
When you first appeared on the board I followed the links to your 2 sites and read them all . When I was a youth and my interest in the past began , your book would have readily been read along with Zecharia Sitchin, von daniken , Donelly and Cayce .
But after too many years of serious study I prefer to keep my feet firmly on the ground Thx.