Firearms Archaeology

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:17 am

Perhaps not as pure as finding Clovis, historically firearms are just a important in late history as a Scotts castle. Recently, in a remote fortress in Nepal, tons of firearms, many rare and expensive to collectors, were purchased and brought to the US. These ranged from the 1700s to early 1900s. Cannons also. This brings up the subject of late 1800s export of US arms to nations around the world that have not surfaced. 300,000 Winchester M1895 rifles in 7.62 X 54 to Russia. These the famous lever action favored be Teddy Roosevelt in 405 caliber. South America bought thousands of Winchester M1866, M1873, M1876. M1886, and M1895s, not to mention the first lever action, and father of the later Winchester---The Henry Rifle. Some of these are literary worth their weight in gold. A recent Henry sold at auction for $500,000. Colt pistols were exported in volumn. Hardly any of these rare weapons have surfaced. Instead of poking arround some Mayan tomb, Indiana Jones would be far richer finding a remote warehouse filled with Henry rifles.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:01 am

Here in the UK they will have all probably been destroyed as Blair and his idiot do gooders think we're old enough to vote them into power but too childish to handle any firearms.
Quite how I've made it to 66 without the benefit of their guidance is a mystery to me.

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:20 am

Hear Blair is outlawing knives? Also forks are dangeous

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:26 am

So are bloody politicians! All in favour of banning them say Aye!

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:27 am

Hello Gunny - haven't seen you in a while.

On topic, there are still unaccounted for caches of Confederate civil war guns and ammo in the US. I wouldn't mind stumbling across one of those.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:34 am

Hear Blair is outlawing knives? Also forks are dangeous

Plastic knives and forks are still banned on international flights
if you try to take some through customs they will be confiscated
therefore if you intend to hijack an airliner just wait until dinner is served and then use the cutlery provided
alternatively a 1 1/2 ltr bottle of brandy from duty free (legal) with a tissue pushed in the top (legal) makes a handy molotov cocktail
you can light it with the 1 cigarette lighter that you are legally entitled to carry on all international flights which are of course all completely non smoking

you couldn't make it up could you

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:49 am

Since when did you expect the powers that be to demonstrate common sense, I always thought they had it surgically removed on accepting office. I was raised with firearms around me and I was unfortunate enough to take a shotgun blast to the face as a child, which damaged my eyesight, because some idiot left a loaded bolt action shotgun where it could fall over, there's always some idiot about. But my experience is that those who are familiar with arms are the least dangerous. My son was an avid follower of the A Team, those men who can blow up a truck with a pistol but never hurt anyone, when he was old enough I instructed him in the safe handling of a 9mm shot gun and let him use a target with a brick wall behind, he was very surprised at the damage done to the wall and never took liberties with a weapon thereafter.

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:08 pm

My two children were taught firearms at five or six and showed how dangerous they could be. They were shooting competition small bore by age ten.

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:21 pm

Surprised about surplus Confederate arms, thought they had to shoot the bloody Yankees to get a reload. Speaking of value in first post, Confederate copies of Colt revolvers made by Dance & Sons in good shape bring six figure prices. Also some question about authtentic Alamo weapons taken back to Mexico. We are talking about much money to collectors. SO----forget paleo look for guns. LOL

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:26 pm

Here in the UK of course to have acess to a side arm now you need to be either a police officer or a criminal, we law abiding members of society must rely on the good intentions of one or the other to remain intact.

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:05 pm

Very sad about UK. Understand the Aussies and Canada are similiar. Our election in 2008 may approach your situation. The problem with that in Texas is that we still have the frontier mind-set. Our children are taught there may be a Comanche out there, so be armed. It would take several divisions with tanks to dis-arm West Texas.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:08 pm

thought they had to shoot the bloody Yankees to get a reload

True in the latter days of the war. But with this war being the most bloody in US history, there were often many weapons left on the ground.

In some cases they were cached rather than taken, depending on available resources. I'm told there are forgotten caches around the Shiloh battlefield, not too far from me.

Now an Alamo weapon, I would give body parts for.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:11 pm

The trouble with our lot is that their dogma requires that all people are basically good, that nobody really is bad, they simple had a poor upbringing, fell under the influence of the other, non-existant evil ones, that with love they'll will change, that punishment is wrong etc etc etc.
The road to Hell is paved with their good intentions and we pay the price, and God help someone who breaks into my home!

gunny · Post by **gunny** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:28 pm

Wow---get you a metal detector and go to Shiloh. Great grandfather(or great-great?) was with the Georgia Calvary and killed at the first battle of Bull Run. The widow came to Texas in 1862. His sword was returned to her. No one knows what happened to it. Plan a two month trip next summer to visit the eastern battle fields. There were three attempts to invade Texas----all failed.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:42 pm

I thought the present invasion was going quite well.