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• Caucasian Dolmens
  Carnac stones of france
  Newgrange, Stonehenge, and Avebury
  White pyramid of China
  Pyramid of Hellinikon
  Pyramids of Egypt
  Ziggurats of Mesopotamia

• Biblical flood
  Comet impact
  Volcano
  Climate change

Now I propose my theory: the Earth was hit in 2194 or 2193 BC by a comet which had spread into many parts, as did Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 which hit Jupiter in 1994 AD. The Dead Sea lies at latitude 31 degrees N, and the badly devastated Mohenjo-Daro on the shores of Indus had a latitude of 28 degrees N. China's Yangtze area has a latitude of around 30 degrees. N. (Impact latitude is stable, longitude varies, such as it did for Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9.) This latitude is also the latitude between Canary Islands and Madeira.

The incidence of 2345-2344 BC may have been an Anatolian event, destroying most badly the area from Troy (IIg) to Tell Leilan. The incidence of 2194-2193 BC surely had a global frame. Mahabharata may describe what happened at Mohenjo-dara, Indus. Edda may describe what happened in the Atlantic Ocean.

Following the return to wetter conditions, politically centralized and class-based urban societies emerged and expanded across the riverine and dry-farming landscapes of the Mediterranean, Egypt and West Asia. The Akkadian empire of Mesopotamia, the pyramid-constructing Old Kingdom civilization of Egypt, the Harappan 3B civilization of the Indus valley, and the Early Bronze III civilizations of Palestine, Greece and Crete all reached their economic peak at about 2300 BC. This period was abruptly terminated before 2200 BC by catastrophic drought and cooling that generated regional abandonment, collapse, and habitat-tracking. Paleoclimatic data from numerous sites, document changes in the Mediterranean westerlies and monsoon rainfall during this event (see the figure) with precipitation reductions of up to 30%, that diminished agricultural production from the Aegean to the Indus (9-11).

(1) PERILOUS ASTEROIDS PLAY HIDE-AND-SEEL WITH NASA
Chicago Tribune, 23 August 2002

(2) COSMIC IMPACTS AND CIVILISATION COLLAPSE @ THE LONDON CATASTROPHE MEETING
The Geological Society of London, August 2002

(3) DID ASTEROIDS AND COMETS TURN THE TIDES OF CIVILIZATIONS?
DISCOVERING ARCHAEOLOGY, July/August 1999

(4) IGNORING EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNTS: ANOTHER RESEARCHER DOUBTS TUNGUSKA IMPACT EVENT
Andrew Yee <ayee@nova.astro.utoronto.ca>

(5) MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT - "IMPACTS: A GEOLOGICAL AND ASTRONOMICAL PERSPECTIVE"
Christian Koeberl <christian.koeberl@univie.ac.at>

(6) PLUTO EVENTS PERPLEX ASTRONOMERS
Sky & Telescope, 23 August 2002

(7) NASA APPOINTS CONTOUR MISSION INVESTIGATION TEAM
NASANews@hq.nasa.gov

(8 ) WILL CONTOUR DISASTER CAUSE DETRIMENT TO PLANNED PLUTO MISSION?
Space Daily, 26 August 2002

(9) METEOR MISSES US BY A MILE
MacArthur Chronicle, Australia, 27th August 2002

(10) FLOODS IN CZECH REPUBLIC AFFECT KLET OBSERVATORY
http://www.klet.org/flood.html

(11) RE: FATAL WEAKNESS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
David H. Levy <david@jarnac.org>

(12) ST. COLUMBA
Pavel Chichikov <fishhook@erols.com>

(13) ST. COLUMBA: A RESPONSE
E.P. Grondine <epgrondine@hotmail.com>

(14) AND FINALLY: "WE'RE ALL DOOMED, BECAUSE OF ASTEROID SCARES!"
Private Eye (London), issue 1060, 9-22 August 2002.

Although the fundamental premise of the creationist approach emphasized the infallibility of literal reading of the bible, few were as aware as those who hold the bible as a daily guide to their lives that the good book was rife with improbabilities and in some cases outright contradictions. Whitcomb and Morris, in one of those necessary departures from literal reading of the scriptures that nonetheless surprise anyone trying to follow their reasoning, concluded that the traditional Ussher flood date of 2450 BC (or its variant of 2459 BC) is probably too recent. On the other hand, noting the similarity of the Sumerian and Biblical flood stories, they consider it impossible that the flood could be vastly older than the stories because the Sumerian version (having been passed on by mere oral tradition, rather than having its truth covered by a divine assurance) was so strikingly similar to the biblical account; surely it would never have retained its similarity to the biblical story if the two traditions had bifurcated many thousands of years before their respective recordings in the first millennium B.C.

Morris quotes one authority who places the date at 3835 BC (based on Abraham birth date of 2167 BC and 1688 years elapsed time between birth of Abraham and flood (John Urquhart, How Old is Man, 1904 Morris p 481)) Elsewhere Morris suggests that the date was in excess of 5000 years ago, though he allowed that some interpretations suggesting that as much as 5000 years had elapsed between the deluge and Abram, which pushes the date of the flood as far back as 7000 BC, stretched the limits of Genesis "almost to the breaking point."

btw - C14 dating is a thread unto itself.

Charlie Hatchett wrote: Roger that. I'll back out of your discussion, seeing 14C calibration is completely irrelevant.

Forum Monk wrote:

Charlie Hatchett wrote: Roger that. I'll back out of your discussion, seeing 14C calibration is completely irrelevant.

Naw, I wouldn't say its irrelevant. Its relevent to so many things we should start a new thread. But I am not ready to do it because I have recently begun digging into C14 in more depth.

the Earth was hit in 2194 or 2193 BC

Probably not global but Santorini had a major impact on the world around the eastern Mediterranian around the 1500's.

surely it would never have retained its similarity to the biblical story if the two traditions had bifurcated many thousands of years before their respective recordings in the first millennium B.C.

Probably not global but Santorini had a major impact on the world around the eastern Mediterranian around the 1500's.

Santorini has been triangulated via dendrochronology, C14 dating and ice core readings at around 1625 BC. Again, by that time, the GP and Stonehenge were already nearly a millenium old.

There is no doubt that the explosion would have had a major impact on the region and certainly contributed to political instability...but Crete, Egypt, and the Hittites survived.

Minimalist wrote: by this time, Stonehenge was 300 years old and the Great Pyramid was 250 years old, even if you accept the time line put forward by The Club. So, its hard to reconcile a post-apocalyptic society building anything before the apocalypse.

Minimalist wrote: by this time, Stonehenge was 300 years old and the Great Pyramid was 250 years old, even if you accept the time line put forward by The Club. So, its hard to reconcile a post-apocalyptic society building anything before the apocalypse.