Comet Impact - Noahs Flood?

[Beagle]

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/nov/di ... reat-flood

Masse’s biggest idea is that some 5,000 years ago, a 3-mile-wide ball of rock and ice swung around the sun and smashed into the ocean off the coast of Madagascar. The ensuing cataclysm sent a series of 600-foot-high tsunamis crashing against the world’s coastlines and injected plumes of superheated water vapor and aerosol particulates into the atmosphere. Within hours, the infusion of heat and moisture blasted its way into jet streams and spawned superhurricanes that pummeled the other side of the planet. For about a week, material ejected into the atmosphere plunged the world into darkness. All told, up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished, making it the single most lethal event in history.

This is one man's theory of "Noahs Flood". This comet impact was first posted by Mayonaze I think. It is supposed to have happened about 2800 BC. Personally, I think it caused a lot of havoc but I don't think at this time that it rises to the level of "the Flood".

[Ishtar]

This would fit in with the timeframe for the supposed Dwarka/Bay of Khambay tsunami flood/ It says in the Srimad Bhagavatham that Krishna, juse before his death, warned his people to leave and it was just before the tsunami hit. Of course, the story could have been developed in retrospect.

Also, most calendars start from 3,000 BC, including the Vedic and the Mayan.

[Cognito]

From the article regarding May 10, 2807 B.C.:

"Up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished."

[Minimalist]

One would think that the Egyptians would have mentioned something like that.

[Beagle]

I don't know Min, I've never been too impressed with the Egyptians as historians, but OTOH, the far end of the Med. may not have gotten that much tidal action (agreeing with Cogs ). Ishtars point has merit I think, and I imagine that the tidal action coming up the Persion Gulf would be immense.

This impact has been reported before, and some reports have given the GPS numbers for the impact site, but I haven't looked them up.

But again, I don't believe that this is THE famous flood.

[Forum Monk]

I'm having difficulty seeing Noah's flood in all of this, but I remember these Chevrons from a past series of posts we discussed. For this post, however, this portion of the article caught my attention:

Among 175 flood myths, Masse found two of particular interest. A Hindu myth describes an alignment of the five bright planets that has happened only once in the last 5,000 years, according to computer simulations, and a Chinese story mentions that the great flood occurred at the end of the reign of Empress Nu Wa. Cross-checking historical records with astronomical data, Masse came up with a date for his event: May 10, 2807 B.C.

I read that, "out of 175 flood myths, only two fit my preconceived theory".

Also I would like to understand his definition of planetary "alignment". How close do they need to be to be considered aligned???

[kbs2244]

We talked a lot about this back in the Upheavals in the Third Millennium thread.

I think we agreed that something disruptive happened in the Mesopotamia / India area around then to cause a dispersal of people and knowledge.

The timing is about right for the Biblical version of the Flood, and if it turned that much water into steam, which then cools, I could see the possibility of rain for over a month.

The dates don’t agree with other, datable, major floods however. The Black Sea discussion is one such.

That gives some credence to the idea of what the multiple flood myths are referring to as “worldwide” as meaning not literally “global” as we think of it today, but as “the world as we knew it.”

Is the Biblical version the only one that mentions an unatural amount of rain?

[Forum Monk]

I have confirmed from two different programs, that Saturn and Jupiter were in very close conjunction on 10 May 2807bc. But the other planets, though visible at different hours of the night were not all that close to the others. Hmmmm. I find this alot. My programs do not always confirm these amazing astronomical events claimed in articles. Maybe I need some new software?

[Forum Monk]

We talked a lot about this back in the Upheavals in the Third Millennium thread.

You're right KB, and look at the date on this article -
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/14/news/meteor.php

[Cognito]

McEvedy and Jones estimate the world's population at:

4000bc -- 7 million
3000bc -- 14 million
2000bc -- 27 million
1000bc -- 50 million
1AD -- 170 million

Nowhere is there any evidence that the world's population was reduced by 80% in the year 2807bc. Population studies do not support the claim, nor do environmental studies demonstrate anything unusual going on at that time. 3200bc and 2200bc were a bitch -- but 2807bc? Nada.

[Ishtar]

I have confirmed from two different programs, that Saturn and Jupiter were in very close conjunction on 10 May 2807bc. But the other planets, though visible at different hours of the night were not all that close to the others. Hmmmm. I find this alot. My programs do not always confirm these amazing astronomical events claimed in articles. Maybe I need some new software?

Just a thought, FM. Doesn't 'in alignment' when referring to planets mean in a straight line with one another? I thought that was what is meant, anyway, nothing to do with closeness.....

[kbs2244]

The story doesn’t say how they came up with the 4800 BC date.
Not that I doubt them. But I would like some frame of reference.
Much of it due to the C14 problems we have talked about.
And if they are right, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen again later.
The story I remember was a crater further north. I thought between the Maldives on the floor of the Arabian Sea. In the 2000 to 3000 BC time frame.
Matbe by the same people.
I will have to try and find it.

Cog:
What did they base their numbers on?

[Minimalist]

If those 'chevrons' mean anything wouldn't there have to be other "chevrons" scattered around the Indian Ocean and all pointing to the supposed point of impact?

After all, the waves wouldn't have gone in only one direction.

[Rokcet Scientist]

If those 'chevrons' mean anything wouldn't there have to be other "chevrons" scattered around the Indian Ocean and all pointing to the supposed point of impact?

Seems logical, doesn't it? But the fact that we don't know about those other chevrons doesn't mean they ain't there! Has anybody seriously looked for them yet?

For that matter: has anybody ever thought of methodically applying pattern recognition algorithms to the 'landscape features' of oceans' bottoms? I bet we could learn a lot from that. I hear Arecibo's funding was cut, so now the SETI community of millions is looking for a new cause to donate their distributive computing PC cycles to.

[Minimalist]

Don't you think that the guy who proposes the theory should be the one out there looking?