Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water

john · Post by **john** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:49 pm

All -

The dread Hematite resurfaces........

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008 ... 243951.htm

hoka hey

john

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:56 pm

"Through excavation, we are confident that these hematite were deliberately brought to the Xuchang ruins from afar by ancient people, as Xuchang does not produce such minerals," said Li.

And doubtless, John.....they were imported by BOAT!

Cognito · Post by **Cognito** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:32 pm

Hematite was used in the Pleistocene somewhat like duct tape is today - for damn near everything. Paint, glue, tattoo colouring, etc.

The article mistates that "The Peking Man skull fossil dates back 200,000 to 700,000 years, while the Upper Cave Man skull fossils date back about 18,000 years." The Upper Cave Man skull dates from 80,000 years plus and is obviously a Homo erectus specimen:

Xuchang Skull Reconstruction

Most Chinese anthropologists believe that Asian H. erectus interbred with OOA to create their ancestors. That scenario is not so far-fetched from the nuclear DNA admixture standpoint.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... n%26sa%3DN

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:10 pm

Most Chinese anthropologists believe that Asian H. erectus interbred with OOA to create their ancestors.

Ah! Obviously they were far more accommodating than HNS in Europe!

Cognito · Post by **Cognito** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:47 pm

Min, do you know Andy Blackard? He recently made a statement on a different forum that H erectus mtDNA was recently disocovered in a population in the Cambodia/Thailand area. I will try to pin down the source from him. Until then, this is in the rumor/speculation category.

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:50 pm

The name doesn't ring a bell. But it's an amazing assertion.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:11 pm

Oh I love upset applecarts!

But I have to ask, how would they know that the DNA was from Erectus?
(I also love awkward questions!)

Roy.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:36 pm

As long as you don't mind getting back an awkward answer!

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:50 pm

Akward or not Min I'd love to know how you identify DNA from and extinct species.

Roy.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:52 pm

I'd guess you need to find a skeleton of that species that you can extract DNA from...much as they have done with mammoths. The big kicker is the time frame. HE supposedly went extinct a long time ago.

Unless....they didn't go extinct at all and we are their descendants.

It's a fair question, though.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:01 pm

Unless....they didn't go extinct at all and we are their descendants.

Quite so. But that wouldn't help prove the case Min. Faced with a Mule and no Asses how do you prove that the the Mule is a Horse X Ass?

Roy.

john · Post by **john** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:59 am

Digit wrote:
Unless....they didn't go extinct at all and we are their descendants.

Quite so. But that wouldn't help prove the case Min. Faced with a Mule and no Asses how do you prove that the the Mule is a Horse X Ass?

Roy

Digit -

You need not look any farther than the Bush Administration.

hoka hey

john

and yeah I'm stealing somebody else's

computer to do this.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:47 am

Poor old Bush, doesn't anyone like him?

Roy.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:38 am

Comedians have already admitted that they are going to miss him.

Digit · Post by **Digit** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:35 am

They could start on ours, most of us are past laughing though.

Roy.